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   05/05/2008, 17:04
Tandem_Pilot is not online. Last active: 06/11/2008 11:43:34 Tandem_Pilot



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 Val_2 wrote:
Please do not be another BF or P&O electrician.


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   05/05/2008, 18:08
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 melmoth wrote:

I'm considering putting in a new consumer unit and have a choice - I have a good electrician who will put one ine in with breakers etc or I can do it myself - can anyone tell me how practicable this is? For instance whilst replacing some wiring a couple of years ago I got a shock which I'm told shouldn't have happened and that I';ve probably got a problem with the earth. Could I fix that easilt? Is it a big deal to connect the unit to the main supply?

Also any advice on which Internet provider to go for would be most useful.

Also - I wanyt a French PAYG mobile mainly to make emergency calls and to receive calls free - any suggestions?

Thanks

Brendan

Hi are you still there Melmoth 18 posts and not a word of reply, hope you have not blown your house up.


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   05/05/2008, 21:00
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Let us put the cat amongst the pigeons.

I am pretty upset about the tone of replies to this :

“ I'm considering putting in a new consumer unit and have a choice - I have a good electrician who will put one ine in with breakers etc or I can do it myself - can anyone tell me how practicable this is? For instance whilst replacing some wiring a couple of years ago I got a shock which I'm told shouldn't have happened and that I';ve probably got a problem with the earth. Could I fix that easilt? Is it a big deal to connect the unit to the main supply? “

Returning to the original question :

 

It is perfectly possible provided you are prepared to research and understand the theory and practise and can work methodically. You need either a reasonable command of French or and understanding of the rules in the UK and an acceptance that in France they do things differently. Both Castorama and Leroy Merlin produce very short and in my opinion totally inadequate leaflets on replacing Tablea d electricite. The parts of your original posting that are bold suggest you may have problems with this.

 

http://www.leroymerlin.fr/mpng2-front/pre?zone=zonecatalogue&idLSPub=1081511655

 

 

If you work with a French installation without switching off all power and then checking all wires are dead you will eventually receive a shock. Ways to dusty death include mixed power and light wires within the same conduit. Telerupte/Relay feeds on different circuit breakers to the lights they switch. Use of green and yellow wires for power to and from switches. Parts of a house actually on the neighbour’s power supply.

 

I cannot see why a problem with the earth would cause you to receive a shock if you had switched off the entire system. It is easy to improve the quality of a French earth. Picquets be Terre (earth spikes you hammer in) a thicker copper feed to replace the thin strands that you frequently see in older French homes. The proper testing of an earth is a complex procedure but not that difficult.

 

I am basically a coward / know my limits. I have reshelled cars, caved, scuba dived, serviced light aircraft, navigated light aircraft and small boats, replaced brake disc and drums on cars any of which if you do not do it correctly will kill you. If it were legal and I owned the appropriate test equipment I would instal my own gas pipes.

 

On average I think you will find more people die from badly vented chimneys / CO1 poisoning that are electrocuted in Europe each year .

 Now would one of you sanctimonious people like to post in detail about how you test the quality an earth with or without a MEGGAR I would be pleased to read it. Sorry if this sounds a bit aggressive but I thought most of the replies were less use than a condom which had encountered a cheese grater.


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   05/05/2008, 21:10
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 trying wrote:
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Hi are you still there Melmoth 18 posts and not a word of reply, hope you have not blown your house up.

Even trolls take some time out!


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   05/05/2008, 21:55
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 Tandem_Pilot wrote:
 Val_2 wrote:
Please do not be another BF or P&O electrician.


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Alex - a common phrase here to describe people who come here from one profession,nothing to do with building trades and suddenly they are expert electricians,builders;plumbers etc starting up businesses with no idea of what they are doing when the real artisans have had to study for years,take exams etc and work hard to earn a living, also known as cowboys.


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   06/05/2008, 0:15
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I don't know whether we may have dissuaded the OP from entering into the electrical fray or from the Forum itself. Simply put electrical work like any other engineering work in my opinion can be done one of two ways  1) The right way 2) The wrong way. Option 2 can be very unforgiving, option 1 is perfectly achievable if you have the moxy, wherewithall and plan to ensure you don't dim the lights in the village on your way to meet God.

And for the record

I am not a sparks and never will be, does supervising electrical installation in a nuclear reactor chamber count as valid experience?

I would rather try to help in a supportive fashion, call me old fashioned................


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   06/05/2008, 7:21
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 Anton Redman wrote:

 Now would one of you sanctimonious people like to post in detail about how you test the quality an earth with or without a MEGGAR



I doubt if a MEGGER would be much use in measuring earth resistance. I'd use (indeed I do use) an earth resistance tester, a specialist bit of kit, used for measuring earth resistance...

Sanctimonious enough?


 

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   06/05/2008, 8:44
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 Anton Redman wrote:

Let us put the cat amongst the pigeons.

I am pretty upset about the tone of replies to this :


 Now would one of you sanctimonious people like to post in detail about how you test the quality an earth with or without a MEGGAR I would be pleased to read it. Sorry if this sounds a bit aggressive but I thought most of the replies were less use than a condom which had encountered a cheese grater.



Anton,

I dont consider that my reply was sanctimonious at all. It was a piece of advice that effectively stated that if someone does not fully understand the ins and outs of electrical work they should not do it.

Steve
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   06/05/2008, 8:55
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26 replies (including this one) on the trollometer, will it get to 50?
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