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17/05/2008, 12:27 Ron Avery Joined on 29/11/2004 Aveyron 12 Posts 3,197 Re: Social Charges  Nell wrote: E121 - If covered by this, am I correct in thinking that I am exempt from Social charges?? Its all in the FAQ's, but for clarity, you are only exempt from sociale charges on pensions, not paying sociale charges on unearned income.  If you follow the advice in the FAQs in relation to exemption from CRDS  and write what is described they will know that you have an E121because you will tell them Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more    Report

17/05/2008, 13:00 Nell Joined on 14/08/2007 24 Posts 110 Re: Social Charges Cheers Ron. Believe it or not I had already written that statament on my 2047 form, but had forgotten about it! Is it time for a glass of vin yet?    Report

17/05/2008, 16:44 tigerfeet Joined on 01/10/2007 Posts 98 Re: Social Charges  Ron Avery wrote: As they are taxed as a couple, have an E 121 as a couple,  I'm sure you can work that one out for yourself. I have found some information which may suggest you are wrong Ron , see what you think. quote    "Where an individual holds either Form E121 or E106 in their own name, any UK pension income received by that individual will be exempt from French social charges. For social charge purposes, this exemption only applies to the holder of the form, and not the household (unlike the health-care position). Social charges remain payable on all other income." from this page http://www.livingfrance.com/expert-advice-expert-advice-social-charges-in-france--29890    Report

17/05/2008, 19:52 Ron Avery Joined on 29/11/2004 Aveyron 12 Posts 3,197 Re: Social Charges If Blevins says its true it must be. On the other hand perhaps you should ask him how you divide up your incomes that count for CRDS, pro-rata, or 50-50 and then put that on the tax form?  In practice you are covered as a couple for Health care and exempt from these sociale charges as a couple,  so unless you have millionaire son I really would not worry about it!! If you do decide to pay it, unless you are paying wealth tax. paying or not paying the 0.5% CRDS is not exactly going to break the bank. Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more    Report

18/05/2008, 6:47 tigerfeet Joined on 01/10/2007 Posts 98 Re: Social Charges confused , SD said the social charge is made up of CSG ,CRDS & PS total 11% , but Ron is using just CRDS ??    Report

18/05/2008, 8:56 Ron Avery Joined on 29/11/2004 Aveyron 12 Posts 3,197 Re: Social Charges Sorry Tigerfeet, you can sought it out for yourself, I don't know if you are taking the proverbial but I am not answering any more of your questions. Apologies if you are not, but the answer to your point has been answered so many times that I really cannot be bothered to even find a link to one. Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more    Report

18/05/2008, 13:47 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 2,879 Re: Social Charges  tigerfeet wrote:  Ron Avery wrote: As they are taxed as a couple, have an E 121 as a couple,  I'm sure you can work that one out for yourself. I have found some information which may suggest you are wrong Ron , see what you think. quote    "Where an individual holds either Form E121 or E106 in their own name, any UK pension income received by that individual will be exempt from French social charges. For social charge purposes, this exemption only applies to the holder of the form, and not the household (unlike the health-care position). Social charges remain payable on all other income." from this page http://www.livingfrance.com/expert-advice-expert-advice-social-charges-in-france--29890 Not according to the French impots.  Tax guidance note 2041GG states that  "Les revenus d’activité et de remplacement de source étrangère sont assujettis à la CRDS dans les conditions et selon les mêmes modalités que les revenus du patrimoine, lorsque ces revenus sont imposables en France, en vertu de la convention fiscale applicable et dans la mesure où la personne physique est à la charge, à quelque titre que ce soit, d’un régime obligatoire français d’assurance maladie." An individual who is covered on a partner's E-form under the 'ayant droit' principle is registered for healthcare without being 'a la charge' of the obligatory assurance maladie, therefore meets the criteria for exemption from social charges on foreign pensions.  Holding their own E-form is irrelevent.     Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

18/05/2008, 19:48 tigerfeet Joined on 01/10/2007 Posts 98 Re: Social Charges Sorry Ron , and thanks SD , you prove no point looking elsewhere the best place for answers is here.    Report

18/05/2008, 19:56 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 2,879 Re: Social Charges     Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

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