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04/05/2008, 8:52 Bugbear Joined on 15/11/2006 Vienne (86) Posts 3,518 Re: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi!  plod wrote: You'd be pretty upset if someone dear to you was killed by a dangerous driver but who could not be prosecuted because "we have to get the road open". Near us recently (in France) a motorway was shut all morning after a triple fatal. Of course I would plod, but my comments were a generalisaton in this virtual world.  Read the thread perhaps.....................................     "Life is Short - Forgive Quickly - Love Truly - Laugh Uncontrollably"    Report

04/05/2008, 11:35 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,495 Re: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi! Gluestick, Can I just ask if anyone in  UK government of any political hue has ever done anything you approve of ? PS If any other minister says 'we will listen and learn' I'll scream  - after 10years we do not want a YTS government... too late now to blame the Conservatives, they are in a mess of their own making. www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

04/05/2008, 12:41 Ron Avery Joined on 29/11/2004 Posts 3,099 Re: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi! "At least if the M.P's and the thousands in the non-jobs don't earn he will fire them" Thatcher had that ideology, get rid of council staff, civil servants and people who did not "earn"and put them on the dole.  The theory was that would keep down the rates, make Tory Councils and her popular and reduce income tax for the "producers."  Trouble was that the unemployement figures rocketed to 3 million as a result of her policies of cost cutting, market forces and privatisations and so did the amount of tax payers money being paid out to people on the dole in benefits, free dinners, free prescriptions, free dentists, rent rebates and all the other benefits the unemployed and theiir families got, whilst at the same time the amount collected in VAT,  income tax and NI tumbled.  These costs to the country made her self first policies the economics of the madhouse to the point where it would have been cheaper to the country as a whole although not white van man of Bexley to leave the people in their "non earning jobs"   At least they were contributing something and had self esteem even if counting lamposts and numbering them was not "earning" anything at least they were in employment. By all means get the long term unemployed off the dole and the frauds on IB  back to work, but before you propose policies that will put thousands of people on the dole again, at least think through the consequences and do the sums first. Driven away by an idiot    Report

04/05/2008, 19:37 Gastines Joined on 23/08/2004 Les Gastines.St.Pere 5mins St.Malo Posts 772 Re: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi! Dear Ron, Sir Alan Sugar was suggested rather tongue in cheek. I do have a sense of humour even though it may be hard to follow at times.We all have our own views of politics and politicians,basically via what affects us directly. I thought M.Thatcher was marvellous mainly because through her policies I was able to enter the housing ladder. People in power with a good income,living in a protected environment obviously look at life with a different perspective than us at the flat cap level. My wife has probably the best view on life as when I am amazed that a person can earn £150K A WEEK for kicking a football, she simply states that if I could do it .I'd join. What amazes me is that the M.P's and their thousands of underlings can be so far out of touch with life. Gordon Brown's latest utterance of " I feel the peoples pain" is worthy of the worst soap show. I'm still waiting for suggestions for M.P's, seems no-one can think of any worthy persons.The only person springs to mind is my Dad,if we faltered,a belt across the backside soon woke us up. Regards. I must rush ,Coronation Strrets on.    Report

06/05/2008, 11:13 Renaud Joined on 23/08/2004 Barnes / Mirambeau Posts 590 Re: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi! I would like the House of Commons turned into an English parliament (on the Scottish model but reduced in size) with a beefed-up House of Lords turned into a Senate with members elected from all the countries comprising Great Britain. This is where the National Prime Minister and his/her cabinet would be drawn from and where national issues such as defence would be debated. Gus www.relax-in-france.com    Report

06/05/2008, 13:08 Cathy Joined on 07/03/2006 Mostly near Bordeaux; Sometimes near Bristol Posts 1,685 Re: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi!  Renaud wrote: I would like the House of Commons turned into an English parliament (on the Scottish model but reduced in size) with a beefed-up House of Lords turned into a Senate with members elected from all the countries comprising Great Britain. This is where the National Prime Minister and his/her cabinet would be drawn from and where national issues such as defence would be debated. Sounds interesting.  Very radical.  You should say all the countries that comprise the United Kingdom. By the way, does the Queen fit into this, Renaud? Cathy ----- Your children won't remember you ironing their pyjamas but they will remember you reading them a bedside story.    Report

06/05/2008, 17:56 Gastines Joined on 23/08/2004 Les Gastines.St.Pere 5mins St.Malo Posts 772 Re: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi! I think the Queen asks the P.M. to form a government to serve her subjects.Perhaps She could ask the present P.M. to disolve it and do Her subjects a favour. I can't remember the Queen having any participation in any laws/tax's etc etc. Regards.    Report

06/05/2008, 18:13 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,731 Re: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi! She signs them! Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

06/05/2008, 21:33 Weedon Joined on 23/08/2004 Laval (53) Posts 1,129 Re: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi!  Gastines wrote: I'm still waiting for suggestions for M.P's, seems no-one can think of any worthy persons.The only person springs to mind is my Dad,if we faltered,a belt across the backside soon woke us up. Here is my suggestion, albeit he is no longer with us, but a lot of the present bunch seem like the living dead so I put him forward just in case somebody else wishes to adopt his policies. Screaming Lord Sutch.  He proposed using the European butter mountain as a ski slope and sell off the parliament building for time share holiday apartments.  Other than him and the bloke who used to deliver our milk in my Sussex village I have no suggestions. On second thoughts, put forward any, so called, celebrities on a reality TV programme called "Who wants to be an MP"and get people to vote by phone and there you have your new MPs.    Report

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