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   18/04/2008, 8:44
dr orloff is not online. Last active: 01/08/2008 08:14:38 dr orloff

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I think sara77 can decide for herself what is best socially for her own mother.  From a practical perspective then I would suggest that although it is easy enough to transfer to the french health system, matters of tax and inheritance are not straightforward.   Professional advice is essential if residence in France is taken up.  As long as sara77's mother retains somewhere to live in the UK - who's going to know where she actually is? 
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   18/04/2008, 9:04
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who's going to know where she actually is? 

Any official that wants to, unless she can actually walk on water - getting across the chanel generates a 'trail' easily checked by authorities.

You are right, only Sara can know her mothers situation well enough to judge, but some of us who may love our elderly parents dearly, have experience in actually living with them as an adult and are are advising caution - it's up to Sara how much notice she takes...


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   18/04/2008, 9:18
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Anyway, I'm sure that although - as you say Dr Orloff - only Sara can tell whether they could live together, maybe some of those of us who live over here, realise how difficult it can be for even the fittest and most gregarious person to make friends (especially given the language problems for some) which can put an added strain on any relationship.  As said above, if it were me, and given that Sara's mother can seemingly afford to keep her house on, why don't they give it a three month trial - a length of stay that is problem free as regards health, taxes etc, and then decide? 

But assuming that nobody will know where you actually are living is just naive.  A long stay in hospital (especially if it were followed up with lengthy treatment at "home") would soon make it self-evident as to where Sara's mother was actually living.  It could make a big hole in her mother's capital if she ended up having to pay all the hospital bills herself, which could easily happen if the authorities here did any kind of investigation into her circumstances, should that situation arise.


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   18/04/2008, 9:48
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But assuming that nobody will know where you actually are living is just naive.  A long stay in hospital (especially if it were followed up with lengthy treatment at "home") would soon make it self-evident as to where Sara's mother was actually living.  It could make a big hole in her mother's capital if she ended up having to pay all the hospital bills herself, which could easily happen if the authorities here did any kind of investigation into her circumstances, should that situation arise.

 

I have had experience of the UK authorities knowing exactly where,when and how we visited France before we moved here legitimately a long time ago,it was a huge shock and they even had the numbers of the ferry bookings.Everytime you book a ticket to anywhere, that info is passed on and here in France,again everything is noted and also passed on.The only way not to get noticed is by stowing away and never using a bank or service in France.


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   18/04/2008, 12:01
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 cooperlola wrote:

A long stay in hospital (especially if it were followed up with lengthy treatment at "home") would soon make it self-evident as to where Sara's mother was actually living. 



If a bona fide visitor, complete with EHIC/CEAM, is unlucky enough to suffer a severe accident or illness while staying with family in another country and require a "long stay in hospital" would that necessarily change their status from tourist to resident?

Just wondering (with elderly parents).

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   18/04/2008, 12:23
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Not if they had a return ticket I would have thought, as proof of evidence that they were only visiting.
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   18/04/2008, 13:44
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 Phil Pat wrote:
 cooperlola wrote:

A long stay in hospital (especially if it were followed up with lengthy treatment at "home") would soon make it self-evident as to where Sara's mother was actually living. 



If a bona fide visitor, complete with EHIC/CEAM, is unlucky enough to suffer a severe accident or illness while staying with family in another country and require a "long stay in hospital" would that necessarily change their status from tourist to resident?

Just wondering (with elderly parents).
No, I'm sure it would not.  However, there are restrictions on out-patient treatments, and I think I have read somewhere (I'll try to find it again!) that  the patient is normally re-patriated once they are fit enough.  The whole point about the EHIC is that it does cover you for exactly that eventuality. 

However, I was just trying to warn the o/p because if her mother was living with them and - say - she needed visits from nurses, physiotherapy, regular visits to a gp, etc, post op' - then it would become pretty obvious where she was living.


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   18/04/2008, 15:04
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"I have had experience of the UK authorities knowing exactly where,when and how we visited France before we moved here legitimately a long time ago,it was a huge shock and they even had the numbers of the ferry bookings.Everytime you book a ticket to anywhere, that info is passed on and here in France,again everything is noted and also passed on.The only way not to get noticed is by stowing away and never using a bank or service in France."

So everytime anyone in the UK or in France travels abroad that information is passed on?  And to whom? Absolute rubbish. 

 



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   18/04/2008, 15:18
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No, it isn't rubbish at all, it may not be passed on there and then but it is available to the authorities if they request or need it - I'm sorry if it makes you uncomfortable.
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