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16/08/2007, 13:07 retread Joined on 21/07/2007 Perigord Vert 24800 Posts 48 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France Only a general note on foreigners in France. we live, at last, in a very rural area of South West France. Our Maire issues a monthly news letter and in one a couple of years back he was commentating on incomers to the area: they bring Money to the local economy, artisans stay in the area, local services are maintained etc, and in general this particular Maire believes that Incomers are a Good Thing. There are areas where there is a significant percentage of aged Colonels(retd) who only frequent areas with a genuine English tea room and a Cricket Club that serves Marmite sandwiches, but my experience (Elsewhere) is that I have met a lot of hard working people, English, Dutch, Portuguese, Turkish even Aussies etc who have a similar mindset to myself , because we all have a dream and have had the b**ls to try.    Report

17/08/2007, 5:32 Daniel5791 Joined on 19/07/2007 Posts 16 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France It's nice to finally hear some positive commentary from people!! As Linda(or was it Richard?) said, the return is only a day away! Putting it in some perspective also-a good European holiday done properly would probably cost about $20k+ to do. Making the move over I believe would cost somewhere in that ball park. (cost of new furniture and inevitable losses on the sale of other things aside) So if you look at it as a great big holiday where you don't have to return home is you don't want to, I think it becomes a far less daunting and risky move. Daniel    Report

19/08/2007, 18:35 Jura Joined on 28/11/2005 Posts 805 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France Lynda and Dicky...what a couple of racist bigots you both are. 'Unless you're into Abo stuff which we're not''...what a disgusting comment to make and I am appalled no-one has taken you to task here for that. Do you call 'history' that of a people who cold-bloodedly murdered a mother and her husband?(Marie-Antoinette and Louis VI) without proper trial or reason?. Please do not speak as 'Australians' because you both are not...you were 'arrived Brits' in Australia...Pom's in other words. Back when it was easy I would say. Please name one other nation on this planet that has had a human occupancy of over 40,000 years... and no culture? Banjo Paterson; CJ Dennis; May Gibbs; Pro Hart; Dorothy MacKellar; Dame Joan Sutherland; Roger Woodward; John Williams; Sir Charles MacKerras; Sidney Nolan; Norman Lindsay; Albert Namadjira(an 'Abo'); George Lambert; Henry Lawson; Thomas Keneally; David Williamson; Kath Walker (another 'Abo'); Henry Handel Richardson; Brett Whitely;...I could go on. These people are all our playwrights, artists, poets, writers, musicians...and you say we have no culture???. You wouldn't know I suppose...too busy hunting for water and a 'proper route into town' all that time. And yes, no 'meaningful history' considering we were settled by an overflow of England's prisoners. To me, the only 'pile of poo' are your ignorant remarks. France deserves you. In support of an Australian Republic I remain and the sooner the better.          Report

19/08/2007, 19:06 retread Joined on 21/07/2007 Perigord Vert 24800 Posts 48 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France Dear Wen I'm sure Linda and Dicky will not see the humour in your response, but with a typically British sense of fun I find it hilarious that a nations history can be condensed onto an A5 card.  Nuff said?      Report

19/08/2007, 22:40 LyndaandRichard Joined on 01/05/2005 Posts 1,025 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France  wen wrote: Lynda and Dicky...what a couple of racist bigots you both are. 'Unless you're into Abo stuff which we're not''...what a disgusting comment to make and I am appalled no-one has taken you to task here for that. Do you call 'history' that of a people who cold-bloodedly murdered a mother and her husband?(Marie-Antoinette and Louis VI) without proper trial or reason?. Please do not speak as 'Australians' because you both are not...you were 'arrived Brits' in Australia...Pom's in other words. Back when it was easy I would say. Please name one other nation on this planet that has had a human occupancy of over 40,000 years... and no culture? Banjo Paterson; CJ Dennis; May Gibbs; Pro Hart; Dorothy MacKellar; Dame Joan Sutherland; Roger Woodward; John Williams; Sir Charles MacKerras; Sidney Nolan; Norman Lindsay; Albert Namadjira(an 'Abo'); George Lambert; Henry Lawson; Thomas Keneally; David Williamson; Kath Walker (another 'Abo'); Henry Handel Richardson; Brett Whitely;...I could go on. These people are all our playwrights, artists, poets, writers, musicians...and you say we have no culture???. You wouldn't know I suppose...too busy hunting for water and a 'proper route into town' all that time. And yes, no 'meaningful history' considering we were settled by an overflow of England's prisoners. To me, the only 'pile of poo' are your ignorant remarks. France deserves you. In support of an Australian Republic I remain and the sooner the better.       Firstly, Lynda was born and bred in Australia. So she is not a pom. I arrived in 1999, when it was not easy to "get in". I became an Australian citizen 5 years later. Secondly are Aussie or Pommie or Yankie, etc racist terms because they are meant in exactly the same way as Abo? If not, you are just as racist for calling me a pom (not that I give a stuff about that). It's just a term of endearment. A nickname. If the term "Abo" offends you, then I apologise in this case. I always thought it was a nickname. Thirdly, where exactly would you go to see all this massive wealth of culture in Australia? Once you have seen the national icons (Opera House, Bridge and the big rock), there ain't a lot else to see, plus you have to travel so much to get there. I have been to many museums and exhibitions in Australia, and they have all been pretty much the same, a victorian teapot on display here, an old iron there, with very little in the way of explaining the history or the significance of the place - which is a shame. In comparison to France, the search for culture is extremely limited in Australia, which is the point I was trying to get across. And of course, there are tons more famous people from France and the UK that I could list to make your list insignificant. I won't bother wasting my time on it. Your Property in France    Report

20/08/2007, 16:26 maureen Joined on 06/03/2006 Dordogne Posts 67 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France That was all a bit unkind wasn't it??!! maureen.    Report

21/08/2007, 9:31 darnsarf Joined on 19/01/2006 31 (just) Posts 112 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France Wen, I couldn't help capturing the irony behind your post and the name of your signature website!    Report

21/08/2007, 11:08 Ian Joined on 04/07/2007 Posts 389 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France Getting back to the question regarding employment chances in rural France for younger people - It would appear (near me anyhow) that jobs are hard to find and not terribly well paid.  But also there is demand for quality freelance workers in many spheres (building, plumbing, writing, marketing, sales, IT, customer service, tourism, childcare, driving, agriculture, viticulture, teaching, music, accountancy, translation, property etc etc) If you can give up the monotony of having your income divided up into 12 evenly sized cheques spread equi-distant throughout the year, you could probably make a go of freelancing your skills to numerous clients. I'm in my mid thirties - so, OK not exactly a teenager - and moved here with my wife nearly 4 years ago.  Self employment/freelancing worked for us before (in the UK) and continues to work for us here.  All the locals have been most supportive and friendly (and the local expats too...though amongst them I guess we ARE young!!) - there are lots of people who would help setting up a small-holding like the type you describe. The older French generation are not I would guess as entrepreneurial as their US, UK or Aussie peers but younger French people have more of that spirit - I know of a few people in their twenties setting up on there own and making a go of it. You have a few preperation years yet - get your language skills up to speed and GO FOR IT...it may not be easy, but you'll love trying! Best wishes, Ian Holiday and Property Guide for Nice and the Cote d'Azur    Report

21/08/2007, 18:10 Jura Joined on 28/11/2005 Posts 805 Re: Considering a move from Australia to France 'Pommie' and 'yankie' as words do not refer to a particular 'race' but nationalities. They do not refer to colour and that is why I found your 'A-O' word offensive, as an Australian. And who used it...you or her?.  You know darn well that 'A-O' is a racist and derogatory term in Australia, used to describe the indigenous Australians, and if this site was Australian hosted you would not have been allowed to use it. And this site states that 'racist terms' are not tolerated, so why did you use it here?. I assume from your posts that you lived in a rural area in Australia and I know that people from rural areas use the same lingo as you do. Sorry, it's wrong and why did you think it would be acceptable here?. The only reason that 'culture' and 'history' is limited in OZ is because we are a nation that was only settled in 1788, unfortunately most of our 'history' lies within our efforts in fighting and dying for the British Empire. But give us time. We will exist while Mother England continues to sink; and for those of you who have come to France to escape the social and economic problems there you surely must agree otherwise you are hypocrites. I can only assume that, as you deny any existence of 'culture' in Australia your life there was limited to football, the radio, the TV and looking for an alternative route into town and searching for water. Either way, it was good enough to leave your child there while you came here 'for the good life'. That 'signature site' belongs to my other-half' not me. And it does not state 'racist perspectives'.      Report

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