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Earning a Living
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 28/03/2008, 17:02
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whigers
Joined on 27/03/2008
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 ebaynut wrote: | | whigers wrote: | |
As far as charges go - bear in mind that you will have eBay fees to pay as well as (possibly) Paypal fees too (once you have received a certain amount of money - the first few hundred is free I think).
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Not sure that this is quite correct I'm afraid. You will always be charged if you accept Paypal (this can be greedy, because they also charge for the added shipping costs!)
Paypal fees
Which roughly means approx 20p (UK) per transaction, plus 4% of total amount, which includes any other total invoice costs (ie Shipping).
We generally add approx 5% to item start price to cover Paypal costs, plus listing & FVF fees.
Ebay listing & FVF fees
Bear in mind that you are no longer permitted by Ebay to add any charges to your invoice after the sale to cover these fees (you are only allowed to add 'reasonable' shipping & packaging costs), they have to be incorporated into the initial listing price.
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As far as I am aware - when you first open a Paypal account you have a limited amount of money recieved without paying fees as long as:
1) It is a personnal account not a professional
2) The money is sent from another Paypal account (rather than funded by a card payment)
3) The buyer and seller are in the same country
As we have obviously not had this kind of account status for some time things could have changed by now - but I am fairly sure that for someone starting out with a new PayPal account to sell for the first time on Ebay you should find this is still the case. Equally the more you turnover as a professional the lower you rates become so that the charges drop to 1/2 what you are paying at the start.
The real scam comes from the money-go-round at PayPal:
You sell some stuff and PayPal charge you a fee for receiving the money into your Paypal account.
You buy some stuff from someone else and fund it from your PayPal balance AND.... Paypal charge the seller a fee....on the same money, which has only moved on paper - and is still in the PayPal coffers earning them interest on their investments or whatever they do with the millions of £ (billions?) at any one time.
Nice work if you can get it.
Between listing fees, FVF (Final Value Fees for the unitiated - commision on sale value) and Paypal fees you can approximately deduct 9% of the total value of your sale inc shipping costs - all of which goes to Ebay/Paypal (they are one company) - Just watch one catagory of one country on Ebay for 10 Minutes and do the sums.
But it IS STILL WORTH IT - compare the exposure to Google adwords costs, or print, or direct marketing and its is still very good value and often the first people look for Cheap (good value) or hard to find items
Good luck in your sales and purchases (and always read the feedback) as from the end of next month sellers will no longer be able to give negative feedback for buyers and, with the threat of retaliatory feedback a thing of the past, buyers will feel freer to speak their mind - and evualtions will become a truer test of a sellers quality.
Jim
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30/03/2008, 11:09
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Labruyere53
Joined on 16/02/2008
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Can any seasoned Ebay sellers tell me if you ever buy items from the USA to sell on Ebay France or UK please???? I am looking at the possibility of purchasing T-shirts from the states, not designer sports names, just fashion items as there seems a really good & different choice available, but need some advice on what to expect to pay by way of import duty & tax. From what I can find out so far it is better to use USPS rather than UPS or other carrier companies because of their high handling charges, but am unsure what the charges are for import duty & tax by customs. Any knowledge/advice would be welcome.
Thank-you.
Labruyere.
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30/03/2008, 11:23
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cooperlola
 
Joined on 05/05/2006
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My o/h buys a lot of stuff from the US (or he did until a couple of months ago when our pensions began to go down the tubes!) - mostly model railway related in his case. The way the taxes are charged are theoretically standard, but in many cases the things just get delivered and we never get charged. I bought $200 worth of gear from a motor manufacturer last year, and was never charged a cent, even though UPS sent me a letter outlining what I might have to pay. On other occasions, we've had fairly substantial duty to pay, but with the state of the dollar, the stuff still worked out cheaper to buy from there. But it has been a real lottery, in my experience.
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30/03/2008, 18:17
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tuppence
Joined on 11/02/2008
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Hi,
I have read(?) somewhere that you cannot have a paypal account in one country whilst living in another. Is this correct? If so are any of you receiving your monies from buyers in another format i.e. cheques etc. My account on Ebay.co.uk is set up using my Nationwide account in the UK. I believe my sellers account is too. But when I left UK last September I drew all monies from my Paypal account, and have not sold anything now for some time. Although I have the means to send cheques from buyers back to the UK, it would be long winded to say the least and it would be a while before I could send the goods because of waiting for cheques to clear. So Paypal seems to be the answer. Thing is can I still use Paypal from my Ebay uk account although I am resident in France. ![Confused [8-)]](/cs/images/emotions/confused.gif)
tuppence
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30/03/2008, 18:50
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Jura
Joined on 28/11/2005
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I know I am jumping in rather late here but I'd like to reply to inkflo finding it imposs to sell on UK ebay from France. You need to quote an address in the UK and state that the products are based in the UK..use a relatives address if needed. Having said that...I have friends and family abroad, in Australia and the USA, who simply refuse to sell or buy from French or Italian ebayer's. Most often the reason is that they either never pay up or do not ship the item you have bought. Apparently France and Italy have a bad name on Ebay I have been told.
Open a UK Ebay account but you need to quote a UK address.
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30/03/2008, 19:54
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sid
Joined on 16/12/2005
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I posted earlier in this thread, but I repeat, that I have sold on Ebay UK using my address here in France without any problem. I do have a French Paypal account but I'm not sure whether this is relevant.
If you look at the computing sections in particular, you'll see many items from China and Hong Kong, I don't believe they all use UK addresses..
When the OP raised this issue I tried listing a DVD immediately, thinking that perhaps the conditions had changed, but it went on OK and I can't understand what goes wrong for him/her. I don't use the French Ebay for selling and rarely for buying, so all of my experience has been with the UK site. I think British buyers don't like foreign vendors simply because the carriage costs will be higher, and delivery a little slower.
Sid
I came into this world with nothing; by careful management I've still got most of it left!
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30/03/2008, 20:26
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Labruyere53
Joined on 16/02/2008
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Coop thanks for your reply on your experience of buying from the USA, does seem to be a bit of a lottery. From what I can make out I think I'm right in saying that items of clothing ( if they get stopped by customs) are liable to 12% import duty + 17.5% VAT. But it also said items under £18 in value get no charges, not clear though if that is total parcel value over £18 or per item, maybe somebody out there knows????
As for the OP saying use a UK Ebay account & address, thats all very well but then surely you would then need to send any items you are selling to the UK address first to get posted on from there otherwise buyers would then know it wasn't posted from UK. Too complicated, my intention is like sid to sell on Ebay UK using my address here in France, can't see that would put UK buyers off especially as the ad will be in English not French.
Labruyere.
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30/03/2008, 22:26
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Ron Avery
Joined on 29/11/2004
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| Jura wrote: | |
.....I have friends and family abroad, in Australia and the USA, who simply refuse to sell or buy from French or Italian ebayer's. Most often the reason is that they either never pay up or do not ship the item you have bought. Apparently France and Italy have a bad name on Ebay I have been told.
Open a UK Ebay account but you need to quote a UK address.
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What a load of utter ill informed rubbish, E bay in France works very well and many of us buy and sell all over the world. I had an eBay account in the UK and just transferred it to France why lie about where you live, EBay is based on mutual trust.
Its new to the French that is true and they ask a lot more questions than UK buyers but have a look at eBay in the US Jura to see where the real problem buyers are. There is no such thing as a UK Ebay account, its an Ebay account, you can quote a UK address to Ebay if you want but that has to be backed up by a credit card at the same address but as you still have to post from France you gain nothing. If you quote a UK address and charge EU post rates your feedback will soon get deep into negatives.
Ron in the Avey-ron
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31/03/2008, 12:53
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inkflo
Joined on 29/02/2008
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I have to say that I set up my E Bay account on the E Bay UK site, purely to ease the language situation.
I set up a Papypal account two years ago, in English for the same reason.
If I advertise on E Bay UK, or pay via Paypal, I always get the e mails back in French, never in English.
I have managed to list my items now, but I still get all the e mails in French.
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31/03/2008, 13:49
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Russethouse
Joined on 23/08/2004
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What a load of utter ill informed rubbish, E bay in France works very well and many of us buy and sell all over the world. I had an eBay account in the UK and just transferred it to France why lie about where you live, EBay is based on mutual trust.
I buy ceramics and am always nervous of buying on eBay France because in my experience some French sellers simply do not have a professional approach to packing.
I haven't had the same problem with goods from within the UK or USA.
BTW I think either Aladin or Antiquities & Brocantes main feature article was about eBay this past month.
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