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   18/06/2008, 14:00
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 Russethouse wrote:

A couple of years ago I complained, possibly here, that a driver who was involved in a hit and run incident, badly injuring my god daughter was not pursued enough, the car owner was traced but merely said she had lent the car to someone and couldn't remember who (the driver was male) and the police let it go - unbelievable - the outcome was several years of stress and dealing with the MIB to get compensation.

In that instance, my opinion was that the police didn't do enough - I can hardly turn round and now say they are doing too much, something triggered suspicion and if a police officer is suspicious I expect them to act. Don't you ?



Yes but with judgement. And it does seem that police judgement was lacking here. It appears that someone in Mr O's situation was an easy target because of the unfortunate - but completely legal - set of circumstances described. For the police to have refused to deal with the situation leading to 3 days imprisonment was not a good or effective use of police time and budgets especially if one phone call was all that was needed to cast doubt on the validity of the "offence".

I want police (in any country) to be motivated to ensure they are targetting the right people. I don't agree with persisting with something that can be quickly dismissed or resolved just because they "must be seen to be doing something." Any form of police action costs money - to have wasted it on this situation is ridiculous. Resources should be directed at events such as you describe, RH, not at pursuing something that won't hold up in court and that  possiblity could have been established by the police very quickly.

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   18/06/2008, 16:48
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Several years ago Staffordshire Police would periodically have a day on the M6 motorway pulling foreign registered lorries.

I can just imagine the conversation.

" 'ere. This one's got insurance in Polish of somefing foreign"

" Well lock 'im or for a few days. That'll learn him"

These guys were traffic professionals, not some plods just out of training. Human error doesn't come into it; they were doing a job for which they need to be re-trained or put on other duties.




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   18/06/2008, 17:51
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Given the failure of Brittany Ferries to log vehicle numbers on their France-UK travel documentation, I thought it might be a good idea to ask DVLA what to do at the time of being stopped to provide proof of UK entry date.  The rather less than helpful reply came back

"If you were stopped by the police, you would need to discuss the matter with the police as to what documentation they would require in order to prove how long the vehicle had been in the United Kingdom."

I rather think that avenue of approach is a waste of time.

Any ideas?
Ask the BF check-in operator to log the registration number on the ticket manually?
Ask the Immigration Officer at Portsmouth for a date stamp on arrival?
Keep a dated till receipt from the cafe at Ouistreham? Smile [:)]
Just use a different ferry company?

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Turns out to be easy.  PM me if you are interested.

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   08/07/2008, 13:38
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 opas wrote:

The OUTCAST is free..........no case to answer. He has been told he has to produce a copy of his travel document , which he didn`t have because for some reason Our computer chose not to download the info so he just wrote his confirmation number down. so I shall contact norfolkline to see if they will fax a duplicate through to the relevent department. And an english translation of his green card so I am off to see the chocolate fireguard at Groupama in a mo.

 

Big thankyou to all who supported me and my family through this , and a big Raspberry to the not so nice people, you each know which category you fall into!

 

 

 

Update: We have just had a phone call from the solicitor. We sent all documents requested by the courts but the arresting officer had a problem with these, and Outie was due to appear in court of Friday( we had not booked a flight for hi as we were so convinced it would be all cleared up by then!)   After us making a few phone calls to the solicitor , CPS and the IPCC it appears he has had a change of mind. The case has now officially been dropped.

 

 


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   08/07/2008, 13:45
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 opas wrote:

We sent all documents requested by the courts but the arresting officer had a problem with these... <snip> The case has now officially been dropped.



Good. Cool [8-|] But did they say what they didn't like about the documents? Other than presumably they were in French!


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   08/07/2008, 16:38
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No.

We will receive a letter, but the solicitor said he had received a standard letter saying there was insufficient evidence!  

Once that letter is in our hands the IPCC will take over their investigation, which will be interesting as our evidence is sufficient .


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   05/08/2008, 22:18
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Warning note for the future though

 

http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/story/?nID=47900

 

Cheers

 

John


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   05/08/2008, 22:26
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Having nearly lost my son to a foreign lorry driver in a classic 'blind spot' motorway incident a few years ago and personally witnessed two similar accidents it's about time too.

 


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   06/08/2008, 7:11
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Small aside;

John's link to fleetnews says that 17% of crashes in the UK are caused by Poles...

Does this mean that the number of Polish drivers in the UK has reached such a level that this statistic is true (work it out!)?

Or does this (once again) prove that there are "lies, damn lies and statistics"?



 

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