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Swimming Pools in France
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 26/04/2008, 23:08
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Sharkster
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A big warning though is do not be tempted to use any sort of flocculant as it will block up the filtration medium.
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Just been reading this and I have just purchased some Zeolite filter media and the product I was thinking of using - Bayrol Complete - contains "clarifiant", which I am unsure could be classed as flocculant. It states on their website it is safe for catridge filters, but obviously no mention of Zeolite. Is this likely to gunge up my nice new Zeolite or am I safe?
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27/04/2008, 10:48
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Poolguy
 
Joined on 25/12/2004
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You do not say if you have bought ZEL EAU or some other brand.
If it was ZEL EAU then the retailer should have told you that you NEVER use flocculant as you already have exemplar filtration medium and it needs no more help to keep your water clean.
The purpose of flocculant is to aid and improve absolutly hopeless filtration systems - such as sand filtration(40 micron). Its completly crazy situation, as sand is worthless and very poor medium for this job and you are obliged to pay continuously fo flocculant and work to keep it doing anything at all.
But if its thrown away and ZEL EAU put in its place then .... HEY PRESTO!! you have the very best filtration medium available, with nothing more to pay for over 5 years: its the most convenient, best filtration(1 micron), extracts ammonia, nitrates & phosphates and its not difficult of expensive to install.
Sharkster, if you have bought another brand, it stands to reason that they did not give you any advise or assistance in how to use it. Yes Bayrol Complete has flocculant in - bad choice.Use simple Chlor lent instead.
Andrew
www.Poolguy.fr
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27/04/2008, 17:09
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Sharkster
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Thanks for your advice, I knew Floc was out, but clarifant I was unsure on. I will stick with good old chlorine and anit algae.
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27/04/2008, 19:18
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Jonzjob
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I can only agree with JJ. Besides which with the Zeolite you should ot need it. Also as JJ said all you need to do is make sure that the chemicals in your pool are correct and no need for other chemical intervention...
John.
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is the size & the shape & the price of their toys!!
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27/04/2008, 21:51
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Sharkster
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Right, I did not know that. So all I need is stabilized chlorine (or javel & stabilizer) and PH+/PH- (or hydrochloric acid and bicarbonate of soda)to keep the pool in balance. I do not need/should not use, anti algae, floccant or clarifier. That seems simple, are there any other chemicals that should be introduced?
Out of interest, what was the problem you had with anti algae?
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28/04/2008, 16:11
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Poolguy
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Sharkster
Yes you are right in your analysis.
The most economical regime for any pool uses the base chemical treatment rather than the commercial bundled branded version.
Hence:
- Sensitisation - Eau de javel (sodium hypo chloride)
- pH Balance - Sulphuric acid or hydrochloric acid or dry acid (sodium bisulphate)
- Stabiliser - cyan uric acid
- Total alkalinity - bicarbonate of soda
If you are happy to handle these chemicals manually then it’s the best (purest) regime to use, as there are no 'add ons' that you do not need and no not know about.
If you are uncomfortable with handling them then auto dosing is a viable option and there are units available for all pools and budgets.
The reason I don't not agree with anti-algae is that you should not need it if the above is correct, the practice of throwing it in anyway will no help your water quality at all. The are several sorts but the most common is copper sulphate based which is a extremely effective poison and works very well on algae but it can also make humans if it gets to concentrated which it will if you keep on adding and do nothing to get rid of it. Moreover if you get too much of any of the heavy metals in your water then you can have 'plating out' problems where spots of different colour start to appear on the liner. Sequesting metal out of water is a very expensive business.
If you have to use an anti-algae I would only consider using a enzyme base product.
ZEL EAU helps this process by extracting ammonium, phosphates and nitrates by ion attraction, none of which are wanted in pool water.
Hope that we have helped you.
Andrew
www.Poolguy.fr
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28/04/2008, 23:03
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Sharkster
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This is very helpful and thanks
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