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 16/05/2006, 7:42
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LyndaandRichard
 
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I don't know if it's possible in France, but in Australia, I bought around 800 of those bubble wrap envelopes you can get, in 4 different sizes. Australia Post give a 50% discount by buying them in bulk like that rather than individually. Don't know if La Poste can do that or you can go to a newsagent for them, but it kept my postage costs down which in turn made the items I was selling more saleable because of the slightly lower postage rates. It also makes packing up easier as you have all your materials to hand instantly.
We sold over 1000 items in 4 months, with only 1 negative feedback because the stupid idiot couldn't read my description properly.
Your Property in France
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16/05/2006, 8:20
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Darren, Vicky and Amelia
Joined on 23/08/2004
Levignac Dept 47
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We have used Ebay for years as buyers and sellers, with very little trouble. We tedn to advertise on Ebay UK just for simplicity. As said use Turbolister, put plenty of info, state that the item is in France not UK, normally not a problem, I just sold some earrings that went to USA.
For those whom use Ebay alot check this link out, makes me die laughing everytime I see it.
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/ebay-song-p1.php
Have fun
Vicky
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16/05/2006, 12:11
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Clair
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 Herring_Brother wrote: | | Does anybody know what the tax implications are of using ebay.fr (or ebay.co.uk for that matter).thanks,HB |
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See this brief article about ebay trading in France:
LA JUSTICE commence à s'intéresser à eBay.
Le 12 janvier, un vendeur a
été condamné, par le tribunal correctionnel de Mulhouse, à 1 500 euros
d'amende pour « travail dissimulé ». Il lui est reproché d'avoir
revendu 470 objets de collection de 2003 à 2005, sans avoir déclaré son
activité à l'Urssaf et au registre du commerce. Une première en France,
qui pourrait en appeler d'autres. Car si, officiellement, eBay s'en
défend, la fraude - parfois délibérée, le plus souvent pratiquée par
ignorance - est répandue sur le site de vente aux enchères. Pour s'en
convaincre, il suffit de lire le forum de discussion des utilisateurs
d'eBay.
Clair
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16/05/2006, 12:18
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LyndaandRichard
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I don't know what the post above me says as I can't speak French that well yet, but if you're selling you're own posessions second hand there shouldn't be any tax implications as it is classed as a hobby. Certainly if you don't keep records of it, then there's no way the tax dept will ever know anyway.
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16/05/2006, 12:24
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Juswundrin
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"Certainly if you don't keep records of it, then there's no way the tax dept will ever know anyway"
Your naivete is touching...
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16/05/2006, 13:00
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Ron Avery
Joined on 29/11/2004
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True but L&R are actually correct, there are no tax implications to using eBay in France or the UK, provided you are selling your own possessions. That article was stating , as would also be the case in the UK, of a trader who was using eBay to sell goods as part of a business and was avoiding paying tax on those sales...... and that is illegal.
Have a look at a lot of the "businesses" or "shops" that you may have bought from on eBay in the past that have not charged VAT, how many are still registered? Me eight "shops" used , all no longer registered. The UK tax man and it would seem, the French tax man, regularly look at eBay to pick up illegal retailing by businesses, but really they are not interested in you selling your granny's toby jug collection although I notice that a lot of UK sellers have cheques "made out to the wife", making sure perhaps that as she does not work there are no tax implications in the future.
Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more
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16/05/2006, 15:47
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Clair
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The person mentioned in the article was not a professional vendor.
Through inheritance, vide-greniers and marchés aux puces over a period of several years, he had accumulated a large quantitiy of various objects his wife got fed up with and she more or less gave him an ultimatum.
He decided to sell them through Ebay.fr and the gendarmes turned up on his doorstep when a vase he had purchased from a vide-grenier some time before was recognised on Ebay as a stolen item.
Because of the number of sales involved, the tribunal decided he was an undeclared professional vendor even though he had a perfectly legitimate oncome through his job and was already paying his due. According to them, he should have been registered with the Chambre de Commerce, keeping a register of his sales and paying the relevant contributions and so forth.
This has now created a precedent in France. More details about it here:
http://www.journaldunet.com/0601/060117vendeurebay.shtml
http://www.atelier.fr/article.php?artid=31285&catid=21
http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=351667
Clair
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16/05/2006, 16:02
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Cathy
Joined on 07/03/2006
Mostly near Bordeaux; Sometimes near Bristol
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Thanks Clair for the details. It seems pretty harsh to me. Perhaps this is an example about what is being said about the criminal justice system being so far removed from what we expect : law abiding people getting penalised etc. However, why would he have a stolen item for sale?
Cathy
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