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   16/05/2008, 15:41
Belle is not online. Last active: 07/07/2008 06:08:39 Belle

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Thank you for all your comments, I kept feeling it wasn't right, we will see what happens, 'madam Guilotine'  springs to mind.
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   16/05/2008, 15:55
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Sadly the chances of them being caught are low.  Its no wonder France is in the red.  I know people who are in the CMU which is supposed to be linked to the tax system and they do not declare tax in France, they just show a P60 to CPAM as evidence of income and tax paid, as they equally cannot be bothered, which says a lot about the attitude of English functionaries!!  However, at least their income is properly taxed in the UK.

To be honest BaF I doubt that the tax office would be interested, a friend had an ex tax office employee as a French teacher and asked about people she knew who did not pay tax, the teacher said they will be picked up some day when they need welfare!! 


Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more


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   18/05/2008, 16:59
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I hope they have thigh high wellies, 'cause they're more than knee deep in the doo doo. 
When the system catches up with them, and it will, they are in for a nasty surprise.  From many conversations I've had with people, two years seems to be a recurring timeframe for people living off-the-record to get caught out. 
It would be no bad thing to impress upon your acquaintances that the longer they let this run, the worse it will get.

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   18/05/2008, 17:36
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 John Martin BRADLEY wrote:
From many conversations I've had with people, two years seems to be a recurring timeframe for people living off-the-record to get caught out. 


Do you really think so? I have friends that have had a home here for 15 years and lived here permanently for 8 years. They had Gites income and an E111 in case they got sick. Their daughter goes to school here. They have never paid taxes. Recently they sold their large home and purchased two smaller properties. They have a big problem now, of course, if the want to join the healthcare system.

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   18/05/2008, 18:02
John Martin BRADLEY is not online. Last active: 01/09/2008 18:49:11 John Martin BRADLEY

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Certainly not a thing to advocate or expect to get away with if you're planning to move to France. 
I've spoken to people who have had a dreadful time when the proverbial "knock at the door" came - including three families who had to leave France after having completely lost their shirts.
It must be tremendously stressful worrying about what is goign to happen if you get caught.   Much better to do the "right thing" and pay your dues in my humble opinion.
Two years of back-payment of cotisations (not such an issue with gite income) is normally enought to put most people in serious trouble.  Fifteen years is another matter altogether.  
Not to say that if you are going to benefit from what your host country has to offer it is only right to make your contribution (even if it is a horrendously large proportion of your income).
Wasn't there an amnesty for this sort of thing in the Dordogne a couple of  years ago?

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   18/05/2008, 18:05
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The mind boggles, Jay! Presumably they were happy for their daughter's education to be paid for by other people's taxes? I wonder if they even paid any UK taxes to cover their E111.... And there are people who call immigrants to the UK scroungers! Angry [:@]
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   18/05/2008, 18:09
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 John Martin BRADLEY wrote:
Wasn't there an amnesty for this sort of thing in the Dordogne a couple of  years ago?

Quite the opposite in fact...

Discussed here:
http://www.completefrance.com/cs/forums/1/586704/ShowPost.aspx

and a few other links, found by googling "Britanniques RMI":
http://archquo.nouvelobs.com/cgi/articles?ad=societe/20060121.FAP1139.html&host=http://permanent.nouvelobs.com/
http://www.lexpress.fr/info/societe/dossier/arnaque/dossier.asp?ida=437648
http://www.humanite.fr/2006-02-08_Societe_Tous-les-Anglais-ne-sont-pas-fraudeurs-du-RMI
http://forums.france2.fr/france2/europe1/complexe-thatcherien-fraudent-sujet_10673_1.htm
http://www.lefigaro.fr/france/20060429.FIG000000644_les_britanniques_a_la_conquete_de_la_france.html


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   18/05/2008, 18:28
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 Jay wrote:
Recently they sold their large home and purchased two smaller properties.

So at least they got caught for plus values (capital gains tax)


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   18/05/2008, 18:46
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Surely if they are paying in the UK won't the revenue there inorm their french counterparts sooner or later to check things out? I would be sh*****g myself I can tell you because if the french do come after them for their share, it could bankrupt them. They do it for artisans caught on the black and make them pay back years of cotisations the fisc deem to be owing and this is no different.
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