Search Sort Posts:  Oldest to newest Newest to oldest

16/05/2008, 20:45 Judith Joined on 01/02/2006 Posts 295 Re: Cost of living  powerdesal wrote: Given that a barrel of crude yields more diesel than petrol, hence diesel having lower refining costs per litre, why is diesel in UK more expensive at the pump than petrol? Isn't it something to do with the amount of tax?  Not up to date on this as don't have a car in London, but wasn't diesel taxed at a favourable rate, and then it changed????? Judith ex W1 and now in the Aude    Report

16/05/2008, 20:53 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot (46) Posts 7,793 Re: Cost of living I follow your reasoning Powerdesal. The news item also mentioned the higher demand for diesel (in France at least) to explain the oil companies increasing diesel prices. Clair Real Virtual French Person    Report

16/05/2008, 21:07 ErnieY Joined on 05/12/2006 W of Cahors (46) Posts 4,151 Re: Cost of living An couple of inteesting sites HERE and HERE  The latter is potentially useful for those unlucky enough to still be living in UK and not somewhere else ( with the price search applet at the bottom of the page where you can submit your own prices or update out of date ones.   My doctor said one drink per day, I can live with that !    Report

16/05/2008, 21:09 lebois Joined on 25/09/2007 Perigord Posts 111 Re: Cost of living Hi everyone, Before you read this article, may I suggest you prepare yourself a stiff drink! http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/70b4ef0a-1b91-11dd-9e58-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1 I use this before topping up, every little helps! http://www.prix-carburants.gouv.fr/ Goats do a good job of mowing the lawn.....   :) French Health Issues Website    Report

16/05/2008, 22:10 J.R's gone native Joined on 16/07/2006 Picardie, Sussex Posts 2,043 Re: Cost of living  powerdesal wrote: Given that a barrel of crude yields more diesel than petrol, hence diesel having lower refining costs per litre, why is diesel in UK more expensive at the pump than petrol? Regarding the UK diesel petrol price differential, it definitely started as a taxation difference, back in the days when diesel was about 30% less than petrol (like France up until this week!) I listened to an interesting presentation from someone from the department of transport (or whatever irrelevant name they called themselves then) who explained that through taxation (unleaded V leaded) they had tried to induce the motor industry to invest in designing "lean burn" unleaded petrol engines for the future generations of cars. It had actually backfired as manufacturers, driven by consumer demand had instead concentrated on the new (current) generation of diesel engines, he explained that they (the government) did not accept that diesels were environmentally friendly and the way to a green future because of particulate emissions, he accepted that this may be contensious and disputed but that was in fact their position and that they would gradually increase the taxation on diesel fuel until it cost more than petrol or the demand dropped. Several years on we see the result, demand for diesels as high as ever and the price outstripping that of petrol in the UK. OK that is my explanation for the UK now can someone tell me what the hell is going on in France? I last filled up with diesel about 10 days ago, I am sure that it was around €1.18 per litre, not 15 seconds ago on France3 it was shown being sold at €1.43.9 and costing more than super unleaded    Report

17/05/2008, 6:14 powerdesal Joined on 07/01/2006 Fujeirah, U.A.E Posts 2,239 Re: Cost of living Some interesting info on these sites, its UK orientated, not France. http://www.economist.co.uk/science/displayStory.cfm?story_id=11316513   http://www.petrolprices.com/why-diesel-costs-more-than-petrol.html   http://www.iam.org.uk/motoringtrust/news/archive/2006/treasurycouldusevatwindfalltoeasepressureondieseldrivers.htm Edit. Just seen that one of the above duplicates one of ErnieY's sites Steve Fujeirah Emirate, U.A.E + 50 (in France) ...........................................................................    Report

17/05/2008, 6:34 powerdesal Joined on 07/01/2006 Fujeirah, U.A.E Posts 2,239 Re: Cost of living  lebois wrote: Hi everyone, Before you read this article, may I suggest you prepare yourself a stiff drink! http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/70b4ef0a-1b91-11dd-9e58-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1 I use this before topping up, every little helps! http://www.prix-carburants.gouv.fr/ Goats do a good job of mowing the lawn.....   :) Nice of Goldman Sachs to "talk up" the price so that they make more profit - not    Steve Fujeirah Emirate, U.A.E + 50 (in France) ...........................................................................    Report

17/05/2008, 7:43 billyo Joined on 15/11/2005 Posts 81 Re: Cost of living Hi Talking of a stiff drink, I read an article a couple of weeks ago reiewing the current world situation from fuel to food to domestic products and the most startling conclusion was that european domestic energy prices will double in the next two years and that by 2012 (london olympics) oil will be at 750$ a barrel. Not to mention that at the moment biofuel production curently is using 5% of the world grain production and that is set to increase to 9% in two years as well. Photovoltaic and solar thermal is suddenly looking like a viable option.... Now where did I leave those seedlings     Report

17/05/2008, 8:04 Frenchie Joined on 31/05/2007 Niort, 2 Sèvres,79 Posts 4,644 Re: Cost of living It is all getting sooo expensive now; I think my next perfume will be " Diesel by Intermarché" ...   I believe in miracles ..........    Report

Page 2 of 3 (25 items) < 1 2 3 >

France Forum » Moving » Finding/Owning ... » Re: Cost of living

(Quick links) Forums Home |- Search Forums |- Active Topics |- Unanswered Posts User Options |- Sign In |- Join this community |- Forgot Password About This Forum (READ ONLY) |- About This Forum Moving |- Finding/Owning French Property |- Making the Move From Outside the EU |- Long-Term Letting |- Employment Vacancies in France Legal and Finance |- French Legal Issues |- French Finance Building and Renovation |- House Renovations |-- Working with Wood Living |- Earning a Living |- Driving |- French Education |- Pets |- Animal Welfare, Rescue & Protection |- French Satellite TV, French Internet and Telephone |- Health |-- Changes to Healthcare Entitlement, CPAM, CMU and Cartes Vitales |- Swimming Pools in France Owning/Running a Business |- French Artisans |- Gite Owners |- Hotel and Restaurant Owners |- B&B/Chambres d'Hôtes Owners Leisure and Pastimes |- Gardening |- Sport, Leisure and Pastimes |- Shopping |- French Antiques, Arts & Crafts |- Photography |- Motorcycling in France |- Books and Literature |- Getting Married in France |- Pregnancy and Birth French Culture |- French Food and Wine |- French Culture |- French Language |-- French Language FAQs and Useful Links |- Wildlife/Nature/Environment |- French History Travelling to/from France |- Travelling to/from France |- Latest Good Value Deals to/from France Holidays |- Holidays General Discussion |- The Complete France Post Bag |- The Lighter Side |- Other Topics |- Forum Technical Support |- Useful Links About France/French Living Regions |- HOTEL SEARCH |- Central |- North East |- North West |- Paris Ile de France |- South East |- South West |- East |- West |- Corsica and DOM-TOMs