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29/04/2008, 11:37 Quillan Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 3,612 Re: One for the Ladies I think... PMT  Frenchie wrote: Thank God I ve never experienced that !! Thanks Bugs by the way . I have, been on the receiving end. Not very nice for the lady and the results are not so good for their partner either. My experience has been that HRT is a wonderful thing for 'ladies of a certain age'. All I can say is from the partners point of view it bought a lot of stability back to the 'afflicted' person. I don't know what French doctors are like on this subject but initially in the UK a pat on the hand and a condescending 'It's all in the mind you know and part of getting old' from the local (UK) GP shows the ignorance of somebody who has no clue as to the debilitating effect it has on the sufferer and their close family. Sorry but it is a subject that I get quite annoyed about (the lack of diagnosis, treatment and support) and can say that I am firmly in the girls court batting on their side on this subject. http://www.chambresdhote.com    Report

29/04/2008, 13:16 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 6,408 Re: One for the Ladies I think... PMT I avoided HRT myself, as I'm still a little wary of any possible long-term side effects.  However, two ladies of my acquaintance here in France have had no problems having this prescribed and have had nothing but sympathy from their female gp's here.  My advice - see a woman doc' if you can who gets it! Happily, all that is behind me now but Frenchie - be careful you don't speak too soon - your turn may be yet to come.... A very good "self help" and practical book on this subject is "Is it me or is it hot in here" by Jenni Murray. Healthcare Issues Site    Report

29/04/2008, 13:47 Pixie Toadstool Joined on 11/09/2007 Manche/Hampshire Posts 70 Re: One for the Ladies I think... PMT I think we are talking about two different things here - although both governed by hormones:  PMT (pre-menstrual syndrome) and the menopause (or really peri-menopause when you get symptoms before going into true menopause - which actually means cessation of periods).  Some of the symptoms can be the same but I don't think you'd get anyone prescribing HRT for PMT - maybe for the menopause though. In my experience re: PMT, avoidance of alcohol, sugar and saturated fat definitely make it better for a week or two prior to your period.  I know if I drink too much then I suffer many of the symptoms of PMT - including irritability and painful breasts.  Oil of evening primrose is meant to help (and maybe fish oils too) but you would need to take these all the time - not just before the onset of your period. Pix    Report

29/04/2008, 14:06 Frenchie Joined on 31/05/2007 2 Sèvres,79 Posts 3,878 Re: One for the Ladies I think... PMT I must admit I was getting a bit confused between PMT and menopause..  Not experienced either .. I guess I'm lucky!! Anyway, my time will come for menopause, that s a sure thing !!  LOL How do you know when it s time for menopause and you got an hormonal coil ?  The main effect of it being of course contraception, but also  no more periods.. ( a great relief in my case ..)   Happy    Report

29/04/2008, 17:13 opas Joined on 23/08/2004 catalonia, top of the hill en route to the Chateau Posts 2,186 Re: One for the Ladies I think... PMT I had a discussion with the lady doctor I work for about this last year, aparently It can be tested for in your blood  to see if you are suffering the effects of the mennopause........    Report

29/04/2008, 21:17 Lilly Joined on 23/08/2004 Dordogne Posts 94 Re: One for the Ladies I think... PMT Is it something in the water here in the Dordogne?  As you beat me to writing on here ( I was a bit shy!) I think I am technicaly too young for the menopause but if it is PMT and afterwards (Post MT?) I think I am going mad but I have got sore eyes from the amount of crying and I am in a no tolerance zone for my family of men.Yesterday I lost an hour sittng in the cafe in Leclerc fiddling with the foam on my cafe au lait where I was alone and feeling very sorry for myself and I never go for coffee alone but I didn't want to go home so there we are, may be I'm not alone anymore.   XXX    Report

29/04/2008, 22:06 Judith Joined on 01/02/2006 Posts 253 Re: One for the Ladies I think... PMT My pennorth for what its worth - I tried everything for PMT, evening primrose, magnesium OK, etc but only really solved when I got to perimenopause ( which they can determine with a blood test as a previous poster says), which means you are approaching the menopause but the range of ages at which this can happen is as varied as the symptons different women suffer.  I think I sort of moved from PMT into the perimenopause, when a different set of problems arise (hot flushes etc).  My difficulty was getting my (UK) GP to accept that I was perimenopausal in spite of my relatively early age.  It was quite a relief when I finally got onto HRT, and life got back to normal.  I stayed on HRT for 12 years, with few problems (I am afraid I looked at the risk probablity and decided that my quality of life was what mattered then).  When I took the decision to come off (the doctor having confirmed that at my age I was well past the menopause) I did it VERY slowly (over about 10 months, and I am very pleased to say that I am now off the HRT, no periods (yippee!!!) and only small amounts of hot flush still remaining, getting less and less all the time.  (Though, guess what I've just had one whilst typing this!!!). Quillan is quite right, PMT and problems of the menopause affect the whole family (I was not liveable with at times, so many arguements etc!!!), all went once onto HRT.  Unless the doctor says you cannot use HRT (and some women can't) it is certainly worth the try.  PMT is also caused by the monthly changes in hormonal imbalance, so HRT is appropriate for that, be it PMT or menopause.  I see no reason why women should suffer just because the (majority) of (male) doctors think it is something you have to put up with - if they had to put up with it, they'd soon find a solution. Judith W1 and Aude    Report

30/04/2008, 12:36 louis Joined on 02/01/2008 Posts 25 Re: One for the Ladies I think... PMT You can actually get a menopause kit from the chemist in the UK which is very similar to a pregnancy kit in that you have to pee on a stick in the kit and within minutes you know if you have started the menopause - good eh! or maybe not.  I found that I had started the menopause without having to visit my doctor and that I was not a raving lunatic but had very good reasons for feeling as I did.  My memory went, but that could be the wine, terrible hot flushes, and really nasty temper tantrums.  I am slowly, after about 5 years, beginning to feel normal again but as with Judith I still get hot flushes.    Report

30/04/2008, 12:41 Frenchie Joined on 31/05/2007 2 Sèvres,79 Posts 3,878 Re: One for the Ladies I think... PMT Do ALL women experience this ?? Reading what you write ............................... I'm not in a hurry !!!!!  Happy    Report

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