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09/05/2008, 15:19 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,731 Re: Balanced Forum Why do I sense waves of hostility here? Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

09/05/2008, 15:45 Benjamin Joined on 21/08/2005 Vendée South Posts 1,564 Re: Balanced Forum  Russethouse wrote: The report button was always there.... And it works. Thank you Moderators. Benjamin Snips, snails and puppy dog tails    Report

09/05/2008, 16:00 Deby Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 638 Re: Balanced Forum Just thought I would add - my thread seems to have been hi-jacked.  I didnt see the joke thing which is being referred to here.The subject to which I am referring to is what I have noticed across all subjects. An example would be the LHD thread - someone asked whether a  company was worth dealing with.  This was responded with a reminder of be aware of naming and shaming.  My point is by saying someone is not reputable is or not recommended is certainly not naming and shaming. I would also welcome what other posters think, not just Moderator bias. Clarification on this point would be helpful by the Moderators once they have listened to other posters opinions. Deby http://www.chateau-de-clerac.com    Report

09/05/2008, 16:10 raindog Joined on 26/09/2007 HERAULT Posts 761 Re: Balanced Forum b*gger - as usual I seem to have missed all the fun..... sociability is just a big smile and a big smile is nothing but teeth    Report

09/05/2008, 16:10 Jacqui Too Joined on 23/08/2004 Shropshire / Dordogne 24 Posts 616 Re: Balanced Forum  Deby wrote: This Forum is losing its way.  We can only say good things about companies/people but we cannot  say not so good things!!! Oh please be sensible, by saying someone is not good or not recommended is not naming and shaming. The Forum needs to have a balanced view. Otherwise everything is Disneyland and not real life.  People get shot down for offering this here. The Forum should offer balanced opinions. What do others think? Deby I agree with you Deby, but I think that there is a need in some posters to try and tip that balance with snide, abusive comments used only to provoke and annoy. There was a post this morning that was 'pulled' while I was reading it, just another abusive rant from someone hiding behind a user name, I have no idea what went on after that as I was getting on with my other life I found that post offencive and again last night someone using degrading remarks about a certain group of people that the poster knew would offend many on this forum. I think balance is what the mods try to keep (but they are only human) If posters use civilised conversation then then I think there is no reason why most things should not be discussed. Jackie At least with a spell-checker I can appear somewhat educated!    Report

09/05/2008, 16:41 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,495 Re: Balanced Forum  Deby wrote: Just thought I would add - my thread seems to have been hi-jacked.  I didn't see the joke thing which is being referred to here.The subject to which I am referring to is what I have noticed across all subjects. An example would be the LHD thread - someone asked whether a  company was worth dealing with.  This was responded with a reminder of be aware of naming and shaming.  My point is by saying someone is not reputable is or not recommended is certainly not naming and shaming. I would also welcome what other posters think, not just Moderator bias. Clarification on this point would be helpful by the Moderators once they have listened to other posters opinions. Deby I think you really do have to take that up with Forum Admin or Archant. Whether someone is reputable or not, is often a matter of opinion. If you had a bad experience with a customer and they posted x,y and z about you, it may not be unreasonable for you to feel aggrieved. I don't think Archant have, or want to have the resources to get into any sort of refereeing role, nor be sued for defamation etc, so there is a blanket rule to protect the company and other people too.  www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

09/05/2008, 17:37 Quillan Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 3,576 Re: Balanced Forum I seem to remember the naming and shaming rule has been around for years. The way it used to be circumnavigated as it were was not to mention the name just what had happened "Builder took the money, didn't do the work and we have never seen him since" sort of thing. A brief one liner was left at the end by the poster along the lines of "If you want more details, name of person/company etc then please contact me by PM". That way there would be nothing that could get Archant drawn in to any form of litigation. Perhaps we should continue along those lines. http://www.chambresdhote.com    Report

09/05/2008, 18:01 Judith Joined on 01/02/2006 Posts 211 Re: Balanced Forum  Quillan wrote: I seem to remember the naming and shaming rule has been around for years. The way it used to be circumnavigated as it were was not to mention the name just what had happened "Builder took the money, didn't do the work and we have never seen him since" sort of thing. A brief one liner was left at the end by the poster along the lines of "If you want more details, name of person/company etc then please contact me by PM". That way there would be nothing that could get Archant drawn in to any form of litigation. Perhaps we should continue along those lines. Sensible suggestion - let's see if that stops some of the very rude comments which have been getting more frequent.  I agree that it should be possible to let enquirers know of any problems that others have experienced, and as the law of libel (or is it the other one when its written - sorry, been a long day, can't remember what it's called!) is not something anybody wants to get involved in, I suggest reminders of the possibility of "pm's" is flagged when needed. Judith W1 and Aude    Report

09/05/2008, 18:45 puppycloud Joined on 09/05/2008 Posts 16 Re: Balanced Forum  Cat wrote: Perhaps you should ask the forum owners, Archant, who provide and fund the forum?  What an interesting comment.  Have you by any chance read George Orwell?  My impression was that this was a site which invited open and fair debate about all things French and France with a particular bent upon UK people who live or aspire to live here.  Are you saying that we must seek approval from Archant on what we discuss because they pay for the site?  I read the rules when applying and they say nothing of this.  Provided a statement is fair, non insulting and so on it should be published. Please could you clarify this for me and any others who may be confused.   I wonder how much the Director of Oxfam is paid... How many wells would that dig?    Report

09/05/2008, 18:48 puppycloud Joined on 09/05/2008 Posts 16 Re: Balanced Forum  Russethouse wrote: I think its great to have a balanced view, and thats the key word 'balanced'  Plenty of critical posts are allowed, about all sorts of things, there is a fine line between posting logical criticism and spamming ! And yet finer between moderation and censorship.... I wonder how much the Director of Oxfam is paid... How many wells would that dig?    Report

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