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08/05/2008, 18:59 The P's Joined on 29/12/2007 Languedoc Posts 53 Re: cats to france We have three cats that were exported as livestock.   Defra have information on this for the hows etc.   It is a lot cheaper than the passport scheme and if you are not planning on returning then it will work for you.   We only had to get the cats inspected the day before they travelled and that was it.   No requirement for vaccines etc. John Plowright mandmhottubs    Report

08/05/2008, 19:23 vervialle Joined on 30/04/2005 Nr Eymoutiers/Essex Posts 269 Re: cats to france I think for your own peace of mind, it would be sensible to get passports, but you need to act now as they cannot travel for at least six months after the issue date.Then if you ever have to return to the u.k.for any reason and you never know ,provided you keep their Rabies jab in date every two years whilst they are in France, you will be legal to return to the u.k. with them at anytime.It may cost you about £300.00. for them both, but in my mind worth every penny.    Report

08/05/2008, 21:07 Jacqui Too Joined on 23/08/2004 Shropshire / Dordogne 24 Posts 616 Re: cats to france  vervialle wrote: I think for your own peace of mind, it would be sensible to get passports, but you need to act now as they cannot travel for at least six months after the issue date.Then if you ever have to return to the u.k.for any reason and you never know ,provided you keep their Rabies jab in date every two years whilst they are in France, you will be legal to return to the u.k. with them at anytime.It may cost you about £300.00. for them both, but in my mind worth every penny. This is the second time this has been stated today Pets can travel to France after only 21 days after vaccination and the above only applies if you intend to return to the UK I refer again to this from DEFRA http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/factsheet/eufactsheet3_050907.pdf   Jackie At least with a spell-checker I can appear somewhat educated!    Report

09/05/2008, 12:38 Bastet Joined on 06/02/2006 Deux-Sèvres Posts 207 Re: cats to france The situation must have changed a lot in the 6 years since we brought out our 6 cats on an export licence - no rabies or micro-chip required, just the usual vaccinations and a trip to the (Defra approved) vet the day before to be signed off.   We also had, and still have no plans to return to the UK permanently. However, just to play devil's advocate, couldn't the OP bring the cats out on an export licence under whatever regulations that requires nowadays, then apply for a pet passport in France with the rabies etc done here?    I presume the passport scheme works both ways ?   That way, they won't have to wait 6 months minimum before bringing the cats out, which may not fit in with their plans, yet could take them back to the UK eventually should they need to.   "If man could be crossed with a cat, it would improve the man but it would deteriorate the cat"    Report

09/05/2008, 13:40 Catalpa Joined on 23/08/2004 Southern Manche - 50 Posts 1,455 Re: cats to france You can play what you like but it won't be with an export licence as they no longer exist for the import of pets (cats, dogs, ferrets) into France. And, as Jacqui's DEFRA link said () for pets to travel from the UK to France the requirement is microchip + rabies jab + Passport + a wait of a minimum of 21 days before travel to France. The period of six months does not feature in the regulations for animals travelling to France. Edit: Haven't ignored but didn't comment on the P's suggestion as it's not one I know about.    Report

09/05/2008, 13:49 ali-cat Joined on 15/12/2005 Charente Maritime Posts 1,047 Re: cats to france  Jacqui Too wrote:  ali-cat wrote: Your cats will need to be chipped & vaccinated at least 6 months before you intend to move to France, so the passport can be issued after all the necessary blood tests.  I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on that statement, That would only apply if they were returning to UK. To leave UK you only need to wait 21 days after vaccination before traveling to France Edit: This discussed not so long ago: http://www.completefrance.com/cs/forums/1196351/ShowPost.aspx I'm sorry as well - but I have to disagree!!  If you want a passport for your pets a vet will only issue & stamp it after the final blood test results are in - which takes 6 months.  We have no intention of bringing our cats back to NI but our vet still had to wait for the full 6 month period before receiving all the necessary paperwork from DEFRA - nor would the airline have taken them without all the proper hoops jumped through. Many years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this.    Report

09/05/2008, 18:31 The P's Joined on 29/12/2007 Languedoc Posts 53 Re: cats to france  Catalpa wrote: You can play what you like but it won't be with an export licence as they no longer exist for the import of pets (cats, dogs, ferrets) into France. And, as Jacqui's DEFRA link said () for pets to travel from the UK to France the requirement is microchip + rabies jab + Passport + a wait of a minimum of 21 days before travel to France. The period of six months does not feature in the regulations for animals travelling to France. Edit: Haven't ignored but didn't comment on the P's suggestion as it's not one I know about. Our cats were all rescued having been abandonded and abused so we needed to put them through as little stress as possible.   At the time we could barely get near them and the vet used to have to visit armed with a chain mail glove so this presented the best option.   I don't know if what we did is completely above board but it was what we were advised to do at the time and it all worked out.   This was in 2003 and now they are all lap cats.   The papers were checked as we went through the tunnel with them and there were no issues.   I have since told the cats they may be illigal immigrants and now they look sheepish...............so, what are the rules on sheep imports?   John Plowright mandmhottubs    Report

09/05/2008, 19:10 Catalpa Joined on 23/08/2004 Southern Manche - 50 Posts 1,455 Re: cats to france  The Ps wrote: This was in 2003... I think that's the relevant piece of information - export documentation was an option until the rule changes in 2005. Unfortunately - because I obviously understand the wish to cause the cats (and the vet ) as little stress as possible - I suspect that what you were able to do then you could not do now.    Report

09/05/2008, 22:43 plasteredagain Joined on 30/04/2008 hereford/dordogne 24 Posts 6 Re: cats to france we have just moved our cats to france- our regulations for passport were; microchip and 1st rabies jab 2 week wait and 2nd rabies jab 2 week wait and blood test 3 week wait for blood test results- ( hence where the 21 day wait comes from) passport issued in total it took us about 7 weeks to get the passports.  They did not have to wait 6 months before leaving for france, that is only if they are going to be coming back! Anj    Report

09/05/2008, 22:55 Jacqui Too Joined on 23/08/2004 Shropshire / Dordogne 24 Posts 616 Re: cats to france  ali-cat wrote:  Jacqui Too wrote:  ali-cat wrote: Your cats will need to be chipped & vaccinated at least 6 months before you intend to move to France, so the passport can be issued after all the necessary blood tests.  I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on that statement, That would only apply if they were returning to UK. To leave UK you only need to wait 21 days after vaccination before traveling to France Edit: This discussed not so long ago: http://www.completefrance.com/cs/forums/1196351/ShowPost.aspx I'm sorry as well - but I have to disagree!!  If you want a passport for your pets a vet will only issue & stamp it after the final blood test results are in - which takes 6 months.  We have no intention of bringing our cats back to NI but our vet still had to wait for the full 6 month period before receiving all the necessary paperwork from DEFRA - nor would the airline have taken them without all the proper hoops jumped through. I'm losing the will to live with this thread Where and when did you have you information from? Have you read the other posts that contradict you? The OP wants to take her cats to France and not bring them back, she dose not need blood tests, only a passport which she can get after micro chipping and rabies vaccination and then a minimum 21 day wait before travel. Passports are issued either after vaccination if you are not having blood tests (as in the case of people wishing to export and not return) or after successful blood tests for people wishing to return to UK, the six month rules is only for pets returning to UK. You say you are from NI which means you come under UK law, so these rules should be the same for you as they are for us, and I don't understand why you say the blood tests results take 6 months, you get the result after about 14 days and the 6 month wait starts from the day the blood was taken. Please can I ask if people are stating facts that those facts be up to date. Deimos where are you!! Jackie At least with a spell-checker I can appear somewhat educated!    Report

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