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 06/04/2008, 15:45
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betsyboo
Joined on 06/04/2008
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Re: very noisy neighbours.
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We had the same problem as you but ours was rock/punk band practise. The house nearby is empty 99% of the year and is owned by someone locally. Last year their teenage children (possibly in their 20's even) used to come on Saturday afternoons and practice their rock group. Our house had been empty for nearly 2 years so I suppose they got away with it. We didn't mind to start with because it just seemed to be someone practising the drums but then they started using microphones and singing (if you could call it that!). They would get there about 2pm and sometimes not leave until 8.30 - 9.00 pm. I wrote to the Maire and they asked if it was possible to tone it down a bit and that worked for a while, then they had a party one weekend. We couldn't hear our t.v. even though windows were shut, you definitely could not have sat outside and in the end went for a walk to get away from the noise! The party was from 3pm - 3.30 a.m. Again I wrote another letter and touch wood it has worked although they did say were any of the other neighbours bothered, but like you we were behind them and the noise just travelled our way. One neighbour who lived opposite said it didn't bother her because she had had 5 boys and was used to noise. If my kids kicked out that much noise they wouldn't have survived very long! It definitely is worth speaking to your Maire, usually I think I would have been concerned as they were neighbours but the fact that no-one lived there the majority of the time and just used it for practice purposes I felt justified - now they have put a donkey in the field who makes lots of noise also in the middle of the night but I can live with that - do you think they did that on purpose!!!!!!!!!!
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06/04/2008, 17:17
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Monika
 
Joined on 23/08/2004
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We have a friend who had a very noisy neighbour: one day he recorded it all and one quiet night played it all back. He still lives in the same house and it did help. What about doing the same.? Have you got a powerful System otherwise borrow one!!
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06/04/2008, 17:19
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opas
Joined on 23/08/2004
catalonia, top of the hill en route to the Chateau
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Go to your Maires office, make a porte plainte against the noise. I should leave the canabis stuff out of the equasion for now, thatcomes after the next party! then you take a visit to the police muliciple and the gendarmes.
I know exactly how you feel as we too have a neighbour who likes to party, he is in a 2 bed house with less than 80m2 of living space with his wife and teenage son, on a weekend they hve been known to squeeze 20 people into their house and blast us out till all hours......last night being an example. He has already had one letter and tomorrow he will be getting another, but my pice de resistance is that nealy a metre of his 1st floor terrace (where they like to party)_ is actually mine, one of those silly land divisions that went on years ago, Well i am going to tell him that we are going to claim it back and build a legal 1.9m wall on it........that will give us more privacy , take half his terrace...read party area, and take his view away as his patio door is ther, and we can do it. That said , if he can agree to stop his fetes at 11pm then I too can be reasonable.
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06/04/2008, 17:49
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Clair
Joined on 23/08/2004
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Code de la santé publique
Section 3: Lutte contre le bruit
Aucun bruit particulier ne doit, par sa durée, sa répétition ou son intensité, porter atteinte à la tranquillité du voisinage
ou à la santé de l'homme, dans un lieu public ou privé, qu'une personne
en soit elle-même à l'origine ou que ce soit par l'intermédiaire d'une
personne, d'une chose dont elle a la garde ou d'un animal placé sous sa
responsabilité.
Est puni de la peine d'amende prévue pour les contraventions de la troisième classe le fait d'être à l'origine d'un bruit particulier, autre que ceux relevant de l'article R. 1337-6, de nature à porter atteinte à la tranquillité du voisinage ou à la santé de l'homme dans les conditions prévues à l'article R. 1334-31.
http://www.sante.gouv.fr/htm/actu/bruit_voisinage_1206/dossier_de_presse.pdf Les bruits de comportement
Les bruits désinvoltes ou agressifs pouvant provenir de chaînes hi-fi, d’aboiements, d’appareils électroménagers, de travaux de réparations, de pétards, etc., sont considérés comme des bruits de comportement. Contrairement au code pénal qui ne réprime que les « bruits ou tapages injurieux ou nocturnes », le code de la santé publique permet de sanctionner « les bruits portant atteinte à la tranquillité du voisinage ou à la santé de l’homme » à tout moment de la journée. Le constat d’une infraction ne nécessite pas de mesures acoustiques : l’agent chargé du contrôle effectue un constat « à l’oreille » et fonde son jugement sur les critères suivants : la durée, la répétition ou l’intensité du bruit. Que faire lorsque l’on est confronté à des bruits de voisinage ?
- Premier recours : la résolution amiable
Lorsque l’on est confronté à des bruits de voisinage, une résolution amiable, en amont de l’instance judiciaire, est à privilégier, afin d’éviter une procédure longue et la dégradation de la
qualité des relations de voisinage.
- Second recours
Pour les situations où aucune tentative de résolution amiable n’aboutit, deux cas sont à considérer :
- les bruits de voisinage sont ponctuels : les plaignants doivent appeler la police municipale, la gendarmerie ou le commissariat du quartier ;
- les bruits de voisinage, en particulier ceux provenant d’activité, persistent : la plainte doit être adressée au Maire. En effet, le législateur, face à cette nuisance de proximité, a donné au Maire la responsabilité de répondre aux plaintes de bruits de voisinage (code général des collectivités territoriales) et les infractions peuvent être recherchées et constatées par des agents des communes désignés par le Maire, à la condition qu'ils soient agréés par le procureur de la République et assermentés dans les conditions fixées par le décret n° 95-409 du 18 avril 1995. Les communes qui ne disposent pas de personnel habilité et de matériel homologué peuvent faire appel aux services de la Direction départementale des affaires sanitaires et sociales pour effectuer les mesures acoustiques [...] En cas d’infraction, les sanctions encourues ont été aggravées par la nouvelle réglementation : par exemple, dans les cas d’une activité dépassant les valeurs limites d’émergence, le code de la santé publique prévoit non seulement des sanctions pénales (amende de 1 500 € au plus, confiscation, etc.) mais également des sanctions administratives telles que la suspension d’activité.
Clair, a Real Virtual French Person
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06/04/2008, 18:35
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mooky
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06/04/2008, 19:18
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Gluestick
Joined on 22/03/2006
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Re: very noisy neighbours.
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 Monika wrote: | | We have a friend who had a very noisy neighbour: one day he recorded it all and one quiet night played it all back. He still lives in the same house and it did help. What about doing the same.? Have you got a powerful System otherwise borrow one!! |
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A few years ago we had a "Pain in the A***" neighbour with two dogs. One, a collie was always escaping: the other, a Jack Russell was "binned" in the garden - at the bottom of ours - and yapped its bits off from 06.00AM to 11.00PM.
One fine Summer's eve, I set up my 50 watt guitar stage amp on some high steps right next to the fence and aimed at their house, plugged in a mike, turned up the wick and retreated back up the garden and said soto voce "Shut your bloody dog up!", a few times!
Peace reigned.................
"Yes, but that apart, Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?"
Gluestick
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06/04/2008, 20:31
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opas
Joined on 23/08/2004
catalonia, top of the hill en route to the Chateau
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| TWINKLE wrote: | | opas wrote: | |
He has already had one letter and tomorrow he will be getting another, but my pice de resistance is that nealy a metre of his 1st floor terrace (where they like to party)_ is actually mine, one of those silly land divisions that went on years ago, Well i am going to tell him that we are going to claim it back and build a legal 1.9m wall on it........that will give us more privacy , take half his terrace...read party area, and take his view away as his patio door is ther, and we can do it. |
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Blinking 'eck!
I'm glad I don't live next door to you Opas!
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I would happily listen to your voice seerenading me off to sleep, than listen to beat music, concouse de crache(spitting) tabble banging , yelling and screaming, then the cars go with blaring horns and the drivers are all ***.........me ever the mum hoping they do not have a crash as the kids are in the cars too!
as usual Cat, some very usefull sites to look at and throw at the maire and them too!_
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06/04/2008, 21:27
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woolybanana'sbrother
Joined on 18/01/2008
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My neighbours are simple mentally, introverted and utterly unconscious of anyone else in the neighbourhood. They make all sorts of noise at any time. But what can one do? A plainte will get them sympathy for what they are.
Do not try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
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