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 01/05/2008, 17:02
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gosub
 
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Re: First Tax Declaration - Form 3916 Queries
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Form 3916 is the one to declare foreign bank accounts, If you use this form you will need to complete one for each account that you have, or as suggested write the details of all your accounts on a sheet of paper and send them to the Impots.
Les
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01/05/2008, 18:45
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Sunday Driver
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When I first declared my tax in France, I called into the tax office and asked for the three forms. They gave me the 2047 and the 2042, but they had no idea what the 3916 was.
After I'd explained it was for declaring foreign bank accounts, they went off and searched the cupboards, but couldn't find any. After a while, I pulled out my typewritten list and said, "Will this do you?"
"Er...OK. Looks fine...thanks....".
I believe that they were introduced years ago when the exchange controls were in place and have never been withdrawn. I've never bothered with one since...
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07/05/2008, 8:52
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allanb
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Re: First Tax Declaration - Form 3916 Queries
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I have to apologize for a misstatement on this topic - quite a long time ago, so maybe it's been forgotten, but just in case...
I said that the requirement for form 3916 (or an equivalent list on plain paper) refers only to "comptes", and expressed the opinion that it probably means any kind of financial asset; for instance, an account with a lawyer or a broker or any other agent).
Actually the detailed instruction sheets ("brochures pratiques") do state comptes bancaires, and that phrase also appears on form 2042, where you are supposed to tick box UU if you have any of them. So it looks as though other kinds of asset can be ignored. No need to declare the gold bars that your brother-in-law in Spain is looking after for you, or the bearer bonds that you left with that nice lawyer in the Cayman Islands.
Having said that, it seems odd that the French authorities would not want you to declare foreign financial assets of all kinds: partly because of the possible wealth tax, and partly because of the general obsession with money-laundering. I wonder if there is some general requirement to disclose such things, independent of the tax return.
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07/05/2008, 10:28
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Sunday Driver
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One would imagine that the 3916 is used to reconcile the stated existence of a foreign account to the fact that earnings have been declared against it. However, given that the 2047/2042 merely asks for consolidated figures, I'm not sure of its present value.
In terms of wealth tax (L'impôt de solidarité sur la fortune), the onus is on the individual to make a separate annual declaration (form 2725) if the total of their qualifying assets exceeds the threshold.
As per normal, if it's your first declaration, you obtain the form from your tax office (or download it). If you've previously declared for ISF, they send you a prerempli version in the post.
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14/05/2008, 12:41
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squidge
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Re: First Tax Declaration - Form 3916 Queries
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tazio
did you ever find an answer to your lieu de naissance and appartement questions? i'm stuck on the same bits!
for the first one, do you pop 'tonbridge, angleterre' (if, like me you happen to have been born there!) on the 'lieu de naissance' line...... or just pop '99' next to dept and nothing next to commune?
for the second, do you leave the entire 'appartement' line blank if it's a house?!
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Thanks everyone, the murk is clearing a little...lol.
After looking through the 2042 and 2047 forms I do have a couple more questions.
Form 2042
Lieu de naissance - Under Dept Number, should this be '99'?
Adresse - What does etage, esc. bat. and nbre of pieces mean?
Form 2047
I'm confused with building society interest, the FAQ's says 'Put the gross figure in Column 5 under Royaume Uni', I can find a column number 5 but where does the Royaume Uni come in?
Finally, I arrived here mid August 2007, and received some final dribs and drabs of part time pay (UK tax paid), should this be included?
I feel a real duffer....but thanks for your patience.
Alan
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14/05/2008, 12:52
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| squidge wrote: | |
for the first one, do you pop 'tonbridge, angleterre' (if, like me you happen to have been born there!) on the 'lieu de naissance' line...... or just pop '99' next to dept and nothing next to commune?
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Dept=99 Commune=Angleterre (or where ever)
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for the second, do you leave the entire 'appartement' line blank if it's a house?!
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14/05/2008, 12:58
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gosub
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Re: First Tax Declaration - Form 3916 Queries
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Lieu de naissance = Place of birth, put 99 in Dept & in commune put Royaume-Uni
"étage esc. bat." etc only apply if you live in a block of flats or appartments and refer to which floor, staircase, building name etc.
Les
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