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 22/04/2008, 11:01
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Will
 
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Crawley Sussex - My birthtown!
Born in a council house, lived in various council and housing association flats until I massively overstretched myself to buy a property in a neighbouring, and still very nice village. I have never looked back since.
My two sisters still live in siege conditions in council houses in the two worst estates in Crawley. I have seen the floor of the Asda supermarket in the town center littered with ready cooked chicken carcasses, half eaten French sticks and empty extra strength lager cans where some people have a free "picnic" whilst walking around the store.
It is always a relief to return to France.
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JR, thanks for saying that. When we defend England we're often told that, where we live, we are sheltered from what it is really like (rubbish, because I have to visit all sorts of unsavoury places all over Britain - and Europe - for work). But Crawley is only a few miles up the road, which is why I remembered that news story.
What you describe sounds just like Netto and Super U in a place near us in France (said jokingly but there are plenty of the French chav equivalent there).
But seriously, remembering the pressure I came under as a child to take part in boxing (couldn't imagine anything I wanted to do less), and how people say France is like Britain was 40 years ago, I could well imagine something like that happening in France. I've never heard of it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
(Edit - sorry, wouldn't let me quote the full user name)
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22/04/2008, 11:11
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Gluestick
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Re: Kiddies fighting
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| Hoddy wrote: | | Gluestick you've hit on one of the reasons for the loss of many after school sports club. Quite a few of my former colleagues gave up running these because after the match they would be cornered by aggressive parents pointing out where they had gone wrong. There was no recognition that they were doing it in their own time and out of a wish to encourage the best of sporting standards among our pupils. Not surprisingly they found it was altogether more comfortable to just go home after work. Hoddy |
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I was very fortunate, Hoddy: I attended a grammer school in the early 50s which was apart from being one of the top in the County, was very much sports oriented. Boasted some famous amateur athletes, top class rugby union players and just about everything else, but was also excellent in academic results and good university places.
I was shell-shocked and horrified when I was asked to become a school governor (County Council Co-Opted) back in the early 90s and the time of LMS.
I fought hard against selling off the playing fields. We did turn the school around (it was a huge problem) and it is now GMS and very successful and parents vie for their kids to go there.
Personally, I believe sports are part and parcel of a balanced curriculum: healthy body - healthy mind: sadly also, sports became "Elitist" 'cos everyone can't win!
Pathetic!
Now of course, just circa 17 years later we, see the result in childhood obesity.
I know it is very difficult to refrain, as a parent, when your child shows far above average skill at a sport: my son was physically, top golf pro material. Sadly, he lacked the desired focus. In odd moments he still blames me for "Not supporting my golf", which is factually wrong, however, whilst I helped him (the reason I'm still working and so poor!), and pushed him a little, I determined it was up to him to screw himself down and make the effort.
However I was determined not to be like say Buster Mottram's parents: or the Lloyd boys, Dad. Knew the family they were local and the father a fanatic and determined one of his lads would be Wimbledon champ.
Nice guys both David and John: they used to be customers of my garage biz when they lived locally.
"Yes, but that apart, Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?"
Gluestick
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22/04/2008, 12:58
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NormanH
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22/04/2008, 13:30
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Benjamin
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Junior cage fighting next, starting with the benjamins?
Benjamin
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22/04/2008, 13:54
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Gluestick
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Re: Kiddies fighting
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| NormanH wrote: | |
The worrying aspect, for me, is the number of reader responses supporting this. What a festering cess pit the UK is so rapidly becoming.
Using "Self-Defence" is a typical pile of steaming BS: anyone with knowledge of martial arts knows that such aggression has no part in real martial art.
And that simply being good at kicking and punching is no real defence against a determined knife attack.
This all proves for me that my previous stance for kids being forcibly removed from many "parents" (which resulted in my being labelled a snob and classist) is correct: since many biologically "Adult" humans are no more suited to parenthood than they are owning dogs.
Has anyone else noticed that in recent years, kids have become yet another trophy possession to many "Adults"?
Grumph!!!
After taking away the kids, I'd subject these scum to mandatory sterilisation!
"Yes, but that apart, Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?"
Gluestick
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22/04/2008, 15:17
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Gluestick
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Re: Kiddies fighting
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I'm not suggesting anything along the line of Eugenics, Cathy: however, to me having been involved in various aspects of social intervention and also of children's betterment, I fear that the UK's current slavish determination to promote and secure human rights has exacerbated abuse of children, amongst a number of other social ills.
I defy anyone to defend these parent's actions, in exposing young children to possible lifetime injuries and mental trauma for the parent's volition.
Kids of this age need love, care, teaching by example and the opportunity to grow in a safe and loving environment.
People who cannot or will not provide such do not possess the right to have or foster children.
For me, having children is a privilege: and not an absolute right of passage.
"Yes, but that apart, Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?"
Gluestick
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22/04/2008, 16:02
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J.R's gone native
Joined on 16/07/2006
Picardie, Sussex
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| Gluestick wrote: |
| NormanH wrote: | |
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Has anyone else noticed that in recent years, kids have become yet another trophy possession to many "Adults"?
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Yes and I could not have put it better.
For Will, we were talking about the social problems in Crawley but regarding the above have you seen the level of teenage vandalism, violence and drug taking in Southwater not far from you?
That place couldnt be farther from a deprived council area and the parents of the teenagers seem to be more obsessed with their newer trophiesthan parental responsibilities now that their kids are getting older.
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