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06/04/2008, 17:17 Monika Joined on 23/08/2004 Dorset/Suisse Normande/Switzerland Posts 621 Re: very noisy neighbours. We have a friend who had a very noisy neighbour: one day he recorded it all and one quiet night played it all back. He still lives in the same house and it did help. What about doing the same.? Have you got a powerful System otherwise borrow one!!    Report

06/04/2008, 17:19 opas Joined on 23/08/2004 catalonia, top of the hill en route to the Chateau Posts 2,174 Re: very noisy neighbours. Go to your Maires office, make a porte plainte against the noise. I should leave the canabis stuff out of the equasion for now, thatcomes after the next party! then you take a visit to the police muliciple and the gendarmes.   I know exactly how you feel as we too have a neighbour who likes to party, he is in a 2 bed house with less than 80m2 of living space with his wife and teenage son, on a weekend they hve been known to squeeze 20 people into their house and blast us out till all hours......last night being an example. He has already had one letter and tomorrow he will be getting another, but my pice de resistance is that nealy a metre of his 1st floor terrace (where they like to party)_ is actually mine, one of those silly land divisions that went on years ago, Well i am going to tell him that we are going to claim it back and build a legal 1.9m wall on it........that will give us more privacy , take half his terrace...read party area, and take his view away as his patio door is ther, and we can do it. That said , if he can agree to stop his fetes at 11pm then I too can be reasonable.    Report

06/04/2008, 17:49 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot Posts 6,247 Re: very noisy neighbours. Code de la santé publique Section 3: Lutte contre le bruit Article R1334-31 - Créé par Décret n°2006-1099 du 31 août 2006 - art. 1 () JORF 1er septembre 2006 Aucun bruit particulier ne doit, par sa durée, sa répétition ou son intensité, porter atteinte à la tranquillité du voisinage ou à la santé de l'homme, dans un lieu public ou privé, qu'une personne en soit elle-même à l'origine ou que ce soit par l'intermédiaire d'une personne, d'une chose dont elle a la garde ou d'un animal placé sous sa responsabilité. Article R1337-7 - Modifié par Décret n°2006-1099 du 31 août 2006 - art. 2 () JORF 1er septembre 2006 Est puni de la peine d'amende prévue pour les contraventions de la troisième classe le fait d'être à l'origine d'un bruit particulier, autre que ceux relevant de l'article R. 1337-6, de nature à porter atteinte à la tranquillité du voisinage ou à la santé de l'homme dans les conditions prévues à l'article R. 1334-31. http://www.sante.gouv.fr/htm/actu/bruit_voisinage_1206/dossier_de_presse.pdf Les bruits de comportement Les bruits désinvoltes ou agressifs pouvant provenir de chaînes hi-fi, d’aboiements, d’appareils électroménagers, de travaux de réparations, de pétards, etc., sont considérés comme des bruits de comportement. Contrairement au code pénal qui ne réprime que les « bruits ou tapages injurieux ou nocturnes », le code de la santé publique permet de sanctionner « les bruits portant atteinte à la tranquillité du voisinage ou à la santé de l’homme » à tout moment de la journée. Le constat d’une infraction ne nécessite pas de mesures acoustiques : l’agent chargé du contrôle effectue un constat « à l’oreille » et fonde son jugement sur les critères suivants : la durée, la répétition ou l’intensité du bruit. Que faire lorsque l’on est confronté à des bruits de voisinage ? - Premier recours : la résolution amiable Lorsque l’on est confronté à des bruits de voisinage, une résolution amiable, en amont de l’instance judiciaire, est à privilégier, afin d’éviter une procédure longue et la dégradation de la qualité des relations de voisinage. - Second recours Pour les situations où aucune tentative de résolution amiable n’aboutit, deux cas sont à considérer : - les bruits de voisinage sont ponctuels : les plaignants doivent appeler la police municipale, la gendarmerie ou le commissariat du quartier ; - les bruits de voisinage, en particulier ceux provenant d’activité, persistent : la plainte doit être adressée au Maire. En effet, le législateur, face à cette nuisance de proximité, a donné au Maire la responsabilité de répondre aux plaintes de bruits de voisinage (code général des collectivités territoriales) et les infractions peuvent être recherchées et constatées par des agents des communes désignés par le Maire, à la condition qu'ils soient agréés par le procureur de la République et assermentés dans les conditions fixées par le décret n° 95-409 du 18 avril 1995. Les communes qui ne disposent pas de personnel habilité et de matériel homologué peuvent faire appel aux services de la Direction départementale des affaires sanitaires et sociales pour effectuer les mesures acoustiques [...] En cas d’infraction, les sanctions encourues ont été aggravées par la nouvelle réglementation : par exemple, dans les cas d’une activité dépassant les valeurs limites d’émergence, le code de la santé publique prévoit non seulement des sanctions pénales (amende de 1 500 € au plus, confiscation, etc.) mais également des sanctions administratives telles que la suspension d’activité. Clair, a Real Virtual French Person La vérité est si obscurcie en ce temps et le mensonge si établi, qu'à moins d'aimer la vérité, on ne saurait la reconnaître. (Blaise Pascal)    Report

06/04/2008, 18:35 mooky Joined on 12/12/2005 79 Posts 238 Re: very noisy neighbours. Dept 79 Nr Chef Boutonne    Report

06/04/2008, 19:03 TWINKLE Joined on 11/03/2006 Tarn 81 Posts 3,700 Re: very noisy neighbours.  opas wrote: He has already had one letter and tomorrow he will be getting another, but my pice de resistance is that nealy a metre of his 1st floor terrace (where they like to party)_ is actually mine, one of those silly land divisions that went on years ago, Well i am going to tell him that we are going to claim it back and build a legal 1.9m wall on it........that will give us more privacy , take half his terrace...read party area, and take his view away as his patio door is ther, and we can do it. Blinking 'eck! I'm glad I don't live next door to you Opas!    Report

06/04/2008, 19:18 Gluestick Joined on 22/03/2006 UK and Nord Pas de Calais Posts 2,342 Re: very noisy neighbours.  Monika wrote: We have a friend who had a very noisy neighbour: one day he recorded it all and one quiet night played it all back. He still lives in the same house and it did help. What about doing the same.? Have you got a powerful System otherwise borrow one!! A few years ago we had a "Pain in the A***" neighbour with two dogs. One, a collie was always escaping: the other, a Jack Russell was "binned" in the garden - at the bottom of ours - and yapped its bits off from 06.00AM to 11.00PM. One fine Summer's eve, I set up my 50 watt guitar stage amp on some high steps right next to the fence and aimed at their house, plugged in a mike, turned up the wick and retreated back up the garden and said soto voce "Shut your bloody dog up!", a few times! Peace reigned.................   "Yes, but that apart, Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?" Gluestick    Report

06/04/2008, 20:31 opas Joined on 23/08/2004 catalonia, top of the hill en route to the Chateau Posts 2,174 Re: very noisy neighbours.  TWINKLE wrote:  opas wrote: He has already had one letter and tomorrow he will be getting another, but my pice de resistance is that nealy a metre of his 1st floor terrace (where they like to party)_ is actually mine, one of those silly land divisions that went on years ago, Well i am going to tell him that we are going to claim it back and build a legal 1.9m wall on it........that will give us more privacy , take half his terrace...read party area, and take his view away as his patio door is ther, and we can do it. Blinking 'eck! I'm glad I don't live next door to you Opas! I would happily listen to your voice seerenading me off to sleep, than listen to beat music, concouse de crache(spitting) tabble banging , yelling and screaming, then the cars go with blaring horns and the drivers are all ***.........me ever the mum hoping they do not have a  crash as the kids are in the cars too!   as usual Cat, some very usefull sites to look at and throw at the maire and them too!_    Report

06/04/2008, 21:27 woolybanana'sbrother Joined on 18/01/2008 Posts 979 Re: very noisy neighbours. My neighbours are simple mentally, introverted and utterly unconscious of anyone else in the neighbourhood. They make all sorts of noise at any time. But what can one do? A plainte will get them sympathy for what they are.    Report

25/04/2008, 18:20 Washy Joined on 23/08/2004 Corbieres, Aude (11) Posts 332 Re: very noisy neighbours. Mooky I do sympathise with you.  We live i the middle of nowhere which is probably good for all concerned as I suspect everyone would have been fed up with our 10 yearsof DIY noise by now.............If they are smoking that much cannabis they are probably growing it.............so look up cannabis plants on the web, make sure you know what they look like then in about July look and smell around their property. Beware.....If you have any hidden areas of your property check that too.....it is popular I have read to grow your own on someone else's land!!!  Arm yourself with some weedkiller and if you find any then sprinkle liberally with weedkiller, just make sure they are not his prize tomato plants.................and he cannot complain about somone ruining his cannabis plants can he?.....................sorry a bit of an off the wall reply but effective if you get it right!!!!!    Report

05/05/2008, 22:13 mooky Joined on 12/12/2005 79 Posts 238 Re: very noisy neighbours. Ive had a really really bad weekend. From friday evening 21.00 nonstop until 15;00 Sundayvery loud music, scent of canabis, and drunk men peering over my fence. I went to the mairie today to complain. So did one other neighbour, also English. Madame Mayor seemed to think it was some Brit conspirsory. She phoned my other neighbours who all said it wasn't too bad. It was awful.They either are very deep sleepers or afraid to complain. I think the latter. Six weekends of no sleep is making mooky a very angry women.    Report

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