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01/04/2008, 22:08 Jacqui Too Joined on 23/08/2004 Shropshire / Dordogne 24 Posts 729 Re: Passport for dog to enter France. Anna We live in UK and take the dogs to France several times a year, always by the routes I have already mentioned, at the UK side and before we get on the ferry the dogs are scanned and we have the passports checked, on landing in France we just drive straight through, coming home on the French side the dogs are scanned passports checked and the vet report within the passport is checked, on landing in UK we just drive straight through again. We don't know any English in our part of Dordogne 10 k north - east Perigueux YET , (we have only had our house 1 year) and our hamlet is all french, but I am hoping to meet someone from the forum next month when we are over. Where are you? Edit: Sorry the last bit sounds as if I was wanting to meet you! I meant I have already arranged to meet someone else. Jackie Untill I am a Granny    Report

01/04/2008, 22:21 Anna Joined on 23/08/2004 Dordogne Posts 189 Re: Passport for dog to enter France. Hi Jackie Oh, that's food for thought then if you have checks done on the UK side, before crossing over to France. I'm still not convinced though that the Pet Passport is required for travel to France. If it's not, then a pet could always obtain a passport here in France, if it is necessary for the pet to return to the UK, which would allow time for the rabies jab to be done and the passport processed. We're situated to the north west of Perigueux.Slightly north west of Riberac (which is probably the English capital of the Dordogne!), close to the border of the Charente. You're lucky that your hamlet is all French as there are quite a lot of hamlets in this area which are all British! No, not at all, I didn't assume that you were going to meet me......that's ok though, I won't take it that you don't want to meet me (or perhaps you don't?) ha ha!!    Report

01/04/2008, 23:01 Jacqui Too Joined on 23/08/2004 Shropshire / Dordogne 24 Posts 729 Re: Passport for dog to enter France. Here this has been discussed before : http://www.completefrance.com/cs/forums/775884/ShowPost.aspx  Demios knows  what he is talking about with pet passports This was copied from the defra site http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/factsheet/eufactsheet3_050907.pdf scroll down page to find: (b) Taking your pet from the UK into other EU countries To travel from the UK to another EU country, a pet must be microchipped (although some countries accept a tattoo), vaccinated against rabies (although Sweden does not require this when a pet travels direct from the UK) and issued with an EU pet passport. Malta has additional entry requirements and to enter Sweden your pet must be treated for tapeworms with a product containing praziquantel no more than 10 days before entry. Please contact the authorities (e.g. the Embassy) of the country you wish to enter to check the 8 requirements. See also (d) below. For rules to re-enter the UK see parts 1, 2 and 3. 21 day wait For EU countries where more stringent entry requirements do not apply, the EU has introduced a wait of 21 days from the date of the first rabies vaccination before a pet can enter those EU countries. However, if the vaccine manufacturer’s datasheet requires more than one vaccination to complete the primary vaccination protocol, the 21 day wait applies from the date of the final vaccination of that protocol. Your vet will advise you further. Booster vaccinations are valid for entry from the date given provided they are given on time. Residence If your pet stays in another country it may become subject to that country’s rules on residence e.g. pets in France become resident after 3 months. You are advised to check with the authorities of the country what those rules are and what implications becoming resident will have for your pet. For example, some countries require resident pets to have an annual rabies vaccination. Jackie Untill I am a Granny    Report

04/04/2008, 19:58 Megan le Fey Joined on 31/10/2006 Posts 210 Re: Passport for dog to enter France. Thanks very much everybody for your input.  I really appreciate it.  I almost decided to risk it on the grounds that (if worst came to absolute worst) I could always take Ollie on the next train back to UK and then bring him through again on the 16th, definitely 21 days plus the day of vaccination and the day of travel and absolutely safe even if cutting it really fine for the moving men.  It was only after worrying about it for a few days that I realised that I could not take Ollie back into the UK once he had left because he does not yet have a passport to return to UK after being in France - that is, blood test plus 6 months, flea, tick and worming, the whole issue.  As far as I know France does not have any kind of holding facility where we could leave him for the last day and Deimos' posts on the link that they may take him and euthanise him scared me to death.  I guess that means that we  travel across on the 16th  then drive like the devil  to try to get to Chateauroux to complete the documentation, collect the keys and get to the house before the movers get fed up waiting and leave again.  Yes, I know, nothing to all you steely ace super confident types but I am a silly old biddy driving a RHD car along with a OH with dementia and two Great Danes on a route I don't know.  Still, it is better than being bored, don't you think so? Anne, used to be Cassie who used to be Miggimeggi    Report

05/04/2008, 13:32 Deimos Joined on 15/11/2005 France Posts 2,731 Re: Passport for dog to enter France. I have no idea about whether treatment day and travel day count in the 21 days.  In theory DEFRA might help but they are really only concerned about entry into UK rather than entry into France.  I have heard of one or two people trying to get answers from the French authorities (on different issues) and getting anywhere is “slow”.  You might try the Agriculture Section of the British Embassy in Paris.  Their phone number used to be +33 (144) 51 32 56.  A section might be a bit of a grand title as I suspect it is one or maybe two people who are not always at their desk.  However, when I have contacted them they have always been exceptionally helpful and they might be more knowledgeable re: the entry to France regs (or be able to get a quicker reply). Whilst I tend to only use about 3 or 4 different routes, my own dogs’ Pet Passports are checked more and more often now getting close to every time.  However, I have never used the tunnel so have no experience of procedures and practices there.  sweet 17 wrote: Megan, I wish for all your sakes that I could be more positive.  But our experience is this:  it's not just the jab, there is the blood test and we were warned that the level has to be ridiculously high for the French authorities. Blood tests are only required to re-enter UK (and a couple of other countries).  Thus the French do not worry about the antibody level other than the vets checking it conforms to the UK requirements when they fill-in that bit in a Pet Passport. Sorry I cannot be more help but do try the British Embassy in Paris as they might be able to provide a way forward. Ian Copyright Deimos. All rights reserved    Report

05/04/2008, 14:28 WJT Joined on 22/09/2004 Posts 1,574 Re: Passport for dog to enter France. I don't know when these regulations to enter France came about but we travelled over on Speedferries the beginning of March with our dog. They didn't check his passport or anything at that time and in fact I had to make sure she knew we had him because they give you a special card to hang on your rear view mirror to show there is a pet aboard. This allows you to be one of the last on and first off. I didn't need to ask because she had known from the information on the ticket but she didn't ask for anything else and didn't even want or need to see him or the passport. We have travelled over on Speedferries the last six times or so, so I am not sure if the procedure has changed recently on the train. As it happens, I will be travelling back to the UK on the train next week but I know that doesn't help much. Perhaps someone will see this that has travelled over on the train very recently. Good luck.    Report

06/04/2008, 14:46 sweet 17 Joined on 05/08/2006 charente maritime Posts 3,201 Re: Passport for dog to enter France. Made a trip back to the UK end Feb for 2 weeks, travelling sous manche both times.  On the French side, everything was thoroughly checked, passport, jabs, tick treatment in a building in an adjacent lot to the place where you park waiting for your train to be called. Coming back, same thing on the UK side, all thoroughly checked.  In fact, both sides knew we had our dog as I did the booking on line and informed them about it.  When we checked in, we were told where to take our dog for her documents to be looked at. Interestingly, we had to pay for her to be taken into the UK but, coming back, there was no amount added to our tickets.    Report

07/04/2008, 11:03 Megan le Fey Joined on 31/10/2006 Posts 210 Re: Passport for dog to enter France. Thank you very much Ian and everyone else for your help.  I 'phoned the British Embassy in Paris and was advised that they were unable to be certain and she suggested that I call the French Embassy in London and speak to their Agriculture Section.  Unfortunately, the number I found was purely call centre with no "real person" option so I went to the website where I found this statement -  In case of a first vaccination against rabies, the vaccination is considered as valid only after a delay of 21 days after the first jab.  The word delay makes me think that we cannot really risk anything less than a full 21 days between the vaccination and the date of travel and so must travel on 16th, not our preferred 15th.  By the way,  I know the whole thing sounds  completely irresponsible and unplanned but  it was a last minute decision to actually adopt Ollie instead of  just  fostering him, otherwise he would have had to go back to the kennels when we left.   Poor old dear is almost 8 which is old for a Dane and he is unlikely to find a new home at that age and we couldn't bear the idea of leaving him behind to go back into kennels.  He just revels in his home comforts. Anna, we were in Dordogne until 6 months ago, near St.Aulaye which is not too far from Riberac.  This time we are off to Indre.  I must go right now and update my profile. Anne, used to be Cassie who used to be Miggimeggi    Report

07/04/2008, 17:30 JohnD Joined on 30/09/2004 penketh/Lot Posts 17 Re: Passport for dog to enter France. Since 2002 we have taken our dog to france either via ferry or Eurotunnel, 3/4 times a year, and at no time has she been scanned at the uk checkin. A cursory glance at her papers/ passport thats all.Arriving in France no check.(of the dog) Coming back,at the French checkin she has been scanned, and papers/ passport checked (very thoroughly) If all is not correct ie date/time of vaccination, you will not be allowed to board. Prior to coming back double check at the vets that date/time are correct. Regards JOHND    Report

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