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   12/03/2008, 18:53
chrisb is not online. Last active: 04/11/2008 22:24:29 chrisb

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I've used Paint Shop since before it became part of the COREL package and have found it more than capable of doing everything I want - and certainly cheaper than Photoshop.
I recently got an Epson scanner and the free software that came with that is also pretty good at a basic level.

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   12/03/2008, 22:20
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As previous posters have noted Photoshop is the real McCoy - if it can be done to an image Photoshop can do it! At a price and after tuition...

Pre-retirement I used various versions for magazine publishing over many years. IMHO you need to use it regularly to get the most out of it - it's very powerful but not very kind to infrequent users.

I believe Elements has pretty much everything a non-professional would need (I recall that it doesn't handle CMYC or other publishing-related aspects) and many people find Adobe's logic easy to follow (I find Microsoft's thought processes almost impenetrable at times!).

If you don't need the full features of Photoshop then Elements is recomended as a very good bet - especially as it's bundled with some cameras and scanners.

 


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   13/03/2008, 7:42
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If you don't want the latest version of Photoshop (CS3), you may find that it's possible to buy earlier versions on Ebay. A couple of months ago, I bought a brand new boxed CS2 for about £80.
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   13/03/2008, 8:18
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I am having a look at Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 and it is a disaster.  On they web site it says it opens and handles Olympus RAW files (even lists my camera).  even has the ORF file extension available in the “Open Dialog” but when you select an file it complains it “does not recognise the file type” and fails.  I hate it when a package claims to do something mainstream then you find it just does not work.

Then, for some reason then need a service running 24/7 on your computer (even when the photo editing is not running).  This is a 3rd party process that collects information from your computer and sends it to a 3rd party (not even Corel !!!).  Many people seem to think this is Spyware (as it meets many of the normal definitions of Spyware).  If every bit of software I purchased needed a small process running the entire time I would need quite a few massive capacity machines for all their little bits to be able to run (leaving no processor time for me to).  You can trash this service with a bit of manual work but when you then try to install any updates the install runs through, complains and then un-installs itself.

The package seems a complete disaster – not because it is bad as such (not even got to look at it yet).

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   13/03/2008, 9:27
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Deimos, how about googling 'photo editing software reviews' - it may give you a few hours reading but could be very helpful.

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   13/03/2008, 16:46
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I use both the full Photoshop and Elements. The original Elements was, quite literally, a cut-price version of Photoshop which did everything the full version did, and in almost exactly the same way. The two exceptions were that it would not save images in CMYK format - as required for four-colour litho printing (though it would open a CMYK image by converting it to RGB) - or handle RAW image formats. Which basically meant that if you were using it for professional publishing work you were forced to buy the full version. The lack of CMYK capability is of little or no interest to 99.9% of non-professional users, the RAW question has been addressed in later versions of Elements. Unfortunately the user interfaces of Elements and Photoshop have grown further apart, so although the functions are still very similar, the way they do things is, in many cases, different, and the full program has grown some extra, advanced, facilities that have not yet been incorporated into Elements.

However the current Elements is still excellent, and handles Nikon RAW images very well indeed.

I have also used other software, such as ACD See and PaintShop Pro, but didn't personally get on with them. Other users might like them - it all depends what you are looking for and what you are used to.


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   13/03/2008, 16:48
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Had a look at the Corel one but they need their Spyware system (a service from a 3rd party that scans your system collecting info and sending it to a 3rd party (NOT COREL) – something I will not tolerate on my computer.

Tried Adobe Elements and they also have their Spyware service that collects info about your computer and sends it (hardly even encrypted) off somewhere on the internet.  again, I am happy to pay for a license and happy to have companies check that license when I e.g. run their program but I will not have people taking my computer’s resources 24/7 when I might only run the program occasionally.   It is a diabolical liberty and also, from a software design structure completely unnecessary.  For occasional use things (e.g. an occasional use license check) they you do not implement it as a service but you put the code in a DLL so it is only loaded when needed.  What is more, the uninstalls leave this spyware in and running (left in clogging up your computer forever !!)

I beggars belief how these companies can think it is their right to install software you neither want nor need that collects information and sends it off.  They do not require an internet connection and only use it “if it happens to be available” (i.e. not needed to verify your license).

So I’m back on the freeware – not from cost perspective but because eI am not prepared to accept spyware on my computer.

I'll have a look at ACD See (check if it is spyware free once I've manually got this other stuff of my computer - editing the registry, etc.)

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   15/03/2008, 19:41
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Personally I prefer Corel Draw suite as it's easy, functional and its interface is much better and easier to use than Adobes Photoshop and Illustrator.

However there is a free package called GIMP and is apparently quite like Photoshop and know of many people who use this. http://www.gimp.org/

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   17/03/2008, 11:32
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 Dick Smith wrote:
Which? rates Photoshop Elements as the best.
I use Elements and Aperture, but I prefer full fat Photoshop.

I have Elements and Photoshop CS2, much prefer the latter for editing.  I'd used an old, basic version of Photoshop (that came bundled with cameral software) and was quite disappointed in the Elements editing tools.

Of course, most people are better photographers than I am and, therefore, probably don't need to do as much editing as I do. Big Smile [:D] 

As to becoming tied to Photoshop for future editing, that's true only if you're saving in a Photoshop proprietary format.  You should not have a problem if you save your photos in .TIFF or .jpeg formats.


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