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   23/03/2008, 23:01
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pelforths is a brilliant beer not brit but

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   24/03/2008, 8:35
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 LyndaandRichard wrote:
Yet to see a British beer being sold in France. Come to think of it, I can't think of a single world famous brand beer from Britain. I'm sure there would be one. Ireland has Guiness, Australia Fosters and the US, Bud.



Bass or Marston's Pedigree - the best beer in the world. What do you drink? Heineken?

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   24/03/2008, 8:38
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Theakstones Old Peculiar..................................

bit like me that one Whistles [Www]

Newcastle Brown Ale.......................................

 


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   24/03/2008, 21:27
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There is, of course no shortage of British beers on sale in the various outlets in Calais which cater to the cross channel trade. Good selection in Oddbins and Sainsburys from the major UK brewers such as Greene King, Shepherd Neame, Black Sheep, Adnams (my favourite beer is their Broadside), etc. You can also buy things like Bud though why anyone would want to remains a mystery to me.

Surely Bass is famous in France, featuring as it does in Manet's painting "Bar at the Folies-Bergère"

British style real ales are also brewed in Brittany by Brasserie Coreff - served on handpump in pint glasses. This brewery dates back about 20 years from its beginnings in Morlaix by two local rugby players who were inspired by the beers  (Double Dragon?) they drank when playing against teams when touring in South Wales. Same again with the various British style brewpubs in Paris, Toulouse, Bordeaux i(Frog and Rosbif, etc)

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   31/03/2008, 10:59
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Apologies for coming in late to this thread,  but having dropped in I remembered that I had a cutting from way back (2002) about a farmer who had started to brew beer in Normandy.

Now having done a search to see if it is still in operation I find there is more information here.


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   31/03/2008, 14:39
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 LyndaandRichard wrote:
Yet to see a British beer being sold in France. Come to think of it, I can't think of a single world famous brand beer from Britain. I'm sure there would be one. Ireland has Guiness, Australia Fosters and the US, Bud.


A proper pint of decent British beer (or ale, if you like) is naturally fermented and transported in barrels.  It should still contain the "gunk"  - if you will - which  is a result of its unique brewing process. Hence it does not travel well over long distances, nor keep for a long time, like the bland bottled top-fermented lagers you mention, and the filtered Guiness which is exported around the world, do.  Hence, it is virtually impossible to export great distances in large quantities, so it does not have the "world brand" status that the chemically mass-produced brands you mention.  But it's a heck of a sight better, and has a good deal more character and individuality as a result, imo.Beer [B]
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   31/03/2008, 14:51
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By definition IPA ( India Pale Ale )  travels . Several UK specialist grocers carry bottled Youngs and Fullers. I rather like the Frog & Rosbif in Bordeaux.
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   31/03/2008, 14:59
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Couldn't agree with you more Coops.  Just last Saturday I was trying to explain to a Belgium that the Guiness in Dublin is a totally different drink from that sold elsewhere, I forgot about the filtering bit though.

I see that Carlsberg and Heineken have just bought up (and split up) Scottish and Newcastle http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7322668.stm

No doubt we will soon see Newcastle Brown marketed as a 'World Brand' but changed out of all recognition to yet another bland Euro Fizz.


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   26/04/2008, 20:52
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 LyndaandRichard wrote:
Yet to see a British beer being sold in France. Come to think of it, I can't think of a single world famous brand beer from Britain. I'm sure there would be one. Ireland has Guiness, Australia Fosters and the US, Bud.


This is because all the best beer in Britain comes from the smaller breweries, or the larger breweries selling beer which had been made at the smaller breweries, so that there are more varieties and therefore none monopolise the market.  I feel this is better, as variety and quality is worth having.  I expect that the beers in mass circulation are those which keep better and travel better.  Years ago, I think you used to see Watney's Red and Double Diamond advertised outside the "British" pubs in France and it was everywhere in England too (awful stuff).  Most foreign countries are used to lager type beers or are faithful to their own beers.  The better known British beers in circulation abroad are the mass produced ones, which may be OK for many people, but not for those of us who are into Ale.  British beer is considered by foreigners to be warm and flat - I drink it because it is less fizzy and if beer is too cold you can't taste it.  I expect this is why you don't see much of it in France.

Over the last 30 years, I've noticed a big change in beer in France.  The changes have been more in the last 20 years.  20 years ago, we used to buy Pelforth Brune and 1664 Brune (the latter seems to have disappeared).  It was the best we could do to find a beer with flavour.  Then we discovered Jenlain Ambree which was a big improvement.  For those who want something a little more like British Beer - not really the same, but good beers come in many varieties - the Ambrees are not a bad substitute - although I love La Goudale which says it is blonde, but tastes nothing like a blonde. Unfortunately, the better beers are not easy to find in some regions of France (the further away from Nord/Pas de Calais you are) and even from the better breweries, there tends to be more of the blondes than ambrees in other regions.  I did get a bit fed up of Jenlain last time I was in France as I was feeling the need for something more refreshing such as Speckled Hen, or Marston's Old Empire which I'm drinking at this moment.  But if you can't find British beer, I would recommend the French bottled beers - Grain d'Orge, Lutece, Cht'i, La Choulette - other bieres de garde.  I'm not so keen on the Cerveze - old style beers though - it's pot luck.  Some can be a bit like dodgy home brew!  Cheers!




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   28/04/2008, 19:00
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Cheers to you all!! I am enjoying my favourite tipple- a  bottle of Fullers ESB(bottle conditioned), bought in Leclerc in St Jean D'Angely at the weekend. I've also got a bottle of Bombardier for tomorrow! Some Intermarche shops have a small range of British Beers including Newcastle Brown. There is an Irish shop in La Rochelle which has a reasonable range of English, Welsh and Scottish beers- may bottle conditioned.. Also In La Rochelle an Asian Minmarket sells Guiness export small bottles-stronger than those available in UK - served chilled  an excellent thirst quencher.
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