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13/03/2008, 22:08 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,495 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC It's one thing to do it from free choice, yet another to do it because its the only way to get accommodation or some other necessity - if  "society" allows this debasement of the human spirit ( well I know what I mean !) then it can hardly complain at the consequences. My feeling is that unless we encourage people to value themselves, 'we' are in very big trouble www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

13/03/2008, 22:23 Pads Joined on 24/05/2006 Cornwall/ Montage Noir Posts 3,120 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC But Russet house its not the only way to get accommodation, or to get money or what ever you need . You can work, or move to where there is what you need. Its what I my husband and many other people did to get what they wanted. I never wanted to move to London when I was younger but I came from an area where there was not much work, or accommodation. so its what I had to do. or i could of stayed at home and done seasonal work . but I would still be there . not where I am today . its all down to choice . society dosnt allow it any more than it allows young thugs terrorising people in there homes , in fact the oppersite , most people hate it, ask them why they do it ? because they want to because they cant be bothered to do anything else . Why are you or I not thugs , sex sellers ect................ because we dont want to be       Dirty Tom =^..^= Where ever I lay my paw thats my home    Report

13/03/2008, 23:02 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,495 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC >> I knew about squalid housing conditions, and the difficulty students face in finding accommodation, and squats being unofficially rented out, but I had no idea about "contra services" letting agreements.  Students having to stay at home with their parents is not the end of the world, especially if the alternative is having to pay for their lodgings with sexual favours << I'm talking about students being obliged to pay for accommodation with sexual favours - are we on the same page ? I think it is all connected with a a lack of self worth, if you somehow get the idear that you are worthless and not capable of anything I should think its easy to be tempted into an 'unwise' way of life - after all what difference will it make? If somehow your parents or perhaps teachers have managed to persuade you are or could be a worthwhile human being then you have something to build on.   www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

13/03/2008, 23:20 Pads Joined on 24/05/2006 Cornwall/ Montage Noir Posts 3,120 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC Not to sure if you are talking to me or the person who wrote above your question.? But : People who go down this route arnt people with self worthlyness(sp) Issues. Most women I have met who are like this end up married to pigs and live a life of druge to the husband and kids .and end up in battered wife groups . it takes a certain type of balls to go down the route of selling your body ( or a bad drug habit) I have worked for years with the samaritains and other women help groups. most women chose this choice to fit in with child care for good money etc.... You dont stand on a street corner with some pretty tough people out there if you cant stand up for your self As to these students they are able to make the disscission over which is right or wrong and its the ruthless one who chooses , free /cheap rent in exchange for sex. If they wernt capable they wouldnt be going to colledge they would be at home still or doing some crap job for the rest of thier lifes Russet house I hope you dont think Im being argumentive !! but its a subject I know a bit about . and its nice to have a good conversation with somme one with a different point of view than me , or for that matter some one who has a point of view. on this subject . Most people dont care !!   Dirty Tom =^..^= Where ever I lay my paw thats my home    Report

14/03/2008, 0:12 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,495 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC I don't mind a debate, but thats probably because  we are probably both right. I certainly know women who have got by the only way they thought they were capable of...sometimes they started out quite tough, but the cracks soon showed....... .   www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

14/03/2008, 0:26 Pads Joined on 24/05/2006 Cornwall/ Montage Noir Posts 3,120 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC Yes your right they do , but were they always there or are they created by the life stlye ? I think like you said we are both right , there are women who take this path for a number of different reasons . the clever ruthless ones make a living and get out , the weaker ones fall into the trap of the life style , the drugs , the user men (pimps ) , getting pregnant and having to keep going to fund the kids , and it becomes a viscious circle for them, . But we all make our choices, there is day one when you say shall I do this ? or do some thing else. We have all been there hard choices to make . Fall or rise its in your own hands ! Dirty Tom =^..^= Where ever I lay my paw thats my home    Report

14/03/2008, 12:45 Clarkkent Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 515 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC What a pointless discussion. Russethouse (rightly) says that students are being put into a situation which, in other circumstances, would be called rape. Pads (rightly) says there are calculating women who use sex as a means of getting what they want. Never the twain shall meet.    Report

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