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11/02/2008, 10:27 bmt Joined on 21/05/2007 (79) Posts 71 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED We are post-E106 CMU-B subscribers, resident in France for three years. We received the letter from CPAM in Niort (79) advising that we would be excluded after 31 March 2008 and subsequently a letter from URSSAF advising that our account with them had been closed.  I queried this with URSSAF, who replied that their action was taken on information from CPAM. We have had no further communication concerning CMU cover from any official source and the last payment was made in September 2007, for 3ème trimestre.  (Aside: Are these paid in arrears or in advance?  Either way, we now owe them money ...)  Prescription charges (ALD 100%) are still being covered by CPAM and I have received the normal statements of account. I know of others who have been to visit the CPAM office several times, but are no further forward with their return to CMU cover.  Personally, I think there is little point in aggravating the CPAM staff at this stage as they appear to be awaiting their authority to act, but I do get a little edgy with all this brinkmanship.  Meanwhile, my Carte vitale continues to work normally.    Report

11/02/2008, 10:36 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 8,270 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED I am sure that your take on this is correct, bmt, and that the bureaucrats are (for pretty obvious reasons) unwilling to act until they get the proper authority.  However, they did have this in December for those in your situation and nothing happened!  So whilst we are keeping a handle on this - to ensure that it really does get done this time - you are probably correct in waiting - as are all those who have cover until the end of March.  As S/D rightly says above, it is those with no cover at all who need to get sorted first, as they are potentially at risk (and many are probably paying out-of-pocket for medications and treatment.) Thanks for the info'. Healthcare Issues Site "I couldn't sleep very well last night. Some noisy b*ggers going around in automobiles kept me awake." Ken Miles    Report

11/02/2008, 11:32 Catalpa Joined on 23/08/2004 Southern Manche - 50 Posts 1,708 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED Coops, is it worth posting your request on a few AngloInfos - say Normandy, Charente and one further south? Certainly on AngloInfo Normandy, many participants are far less well-informed than on here or, say, TotalFrance which leads to higher levels of panic when they receive letters stating 31 March = Goodbye CMU resulting in visits to CPAM offices. You might get a better impression of the situation via those sites. Or it might be informative to give the English-speaking Helpline (which is still, I believe, CPAM St Lo, Manche - 08.20.90.42.12) a call and ask what they think the situation is for inactifs, 5+ year residents etc.    Report

13/02/2008, 12:59 Wicce Joined on 23/08/2004 Central Brittany Posts 82 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED Just to let you know that we have today received a letter from our CPAM in St. Brieuc advising that our cover has been extended beyond 31st March 2008 under the residency rule.   You can imagine our relief.    Report

13/02/2008, 13:36 Kay Joined on 15/12/2007 Beauvais Posts 7 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED Hi Cooperlola As requested here is my info to date:  my CPAM office is Beauvais (60013).  I have lived in France since 1 Jan 2003, enjoyed 2 years cover with an E106, and then became affiliated to the CMU in 2005.  I am an early retiree and rely on a pension from my preious employer.  I do have a pre-existing ALD (RA) and have received 100% cover for this since June 2006. I received two letters (in the same envelope) from CPAM on 15 December.  One (dated 6th) letter telling me how much my cotisation would be for the year from Oct 07 and at the same time informing me that the conditions giving me the right to stay in France had changed, and that I could no longer be affiliated to the CMU.  The second letter (dated 12th) confirmed 'la radiation de l'affiliation au regime general sous critere de residence (CMU de base)' a compter du 1 Avr 08', and gave me two months to contest the decision.   I wrote to contest the decision on 7 Jan 2008 (using your suggested letters as a base for my case) quoting the relevant Securite Social Point d'information.  A couple of days later I received a phone call asking where I had found my information - I had to direct them to the Securite Soc web site!  Needless to say I was informed that I had misunderstood the information given and that it did not apply to me.  I received no written response to this letter. On 21 Jan I wrote again (sending the letter by registered post this time plus copies to CLEISS and CNAMTS), confirming that I was contesting their decision and included a copy of the letter from the Mme Laflandre plus copies of the info from the Service-Public and Sec Social websites.   This time I did get a written acknowledgment of my letter (dated 22 Jan), but as yet have had no confirmation that I can stay affiliated to the CMU. Hope this is the sort of info you need. Thanks for all your hard work on our behalf. Kay      Report

13/02/2008, 14:25 woolybanana'sbrother Joined on 18/01/2008 Posts 1,321 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED So, people who became continuously resident during 2007 but who did not have an E106 would have to wait until they have filled out a tax return in May 2008 for 2007 to prove they are continuously resident? Do not try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.    Report

13/02/2008, 19:00 Boiling a frog Joined on 06/09/2004 16 Posts 904 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED [My understanding is that only people with an E106 or in the CMU on 23rd Nov 2007 can now obtain health care via CMU.Otherwise one will have to have 5 years legal residence to obtain CMU It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or another George H W Bush 1988    Report

13/02/2008, 19:11 woolybanana'sbrother Joined on 18/01/2008 Posts 1,321 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED I thought it was 'legally resident' on the november date? Do not try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.    Report

13/02/2008, 21:13 Boiling a frog Joined on 06/09/2004 16 Posts 904 Re: CMU Ejections : YOUR HELP IS NEEDED Sorry no Only E106 holders on 23rd Nov or CMU subscribers on that date will be allowed to have cover via CMU. http://www.frenchhealthissues.eu/latest_news/02_08_securité_sociale.htm It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or another George H W Bush 1988    Report

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