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   01/02/2008, 14:19
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Sounds just like my old office.Big Smile [:D] And this is France?

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   01/02/2008, 14:23
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Yes...

 


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   01/02/2008, 14:36
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I know what Frenchie means (harcèlement moral).

It is sometimes called "office politics", but amounts to bullying: taking sides, snide remarks, being deliberately "forgotten" when info is circulated, strategy being discussed without your knowledge...

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   01/02/2008, 14:38
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Yes Clair , that s it 100% and much more...

 


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   01/02/2008, 14:57
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How very childish of them and how upsetting for you, Frenchie.

I'm guessing they are aware of what they're doing. Do you have any idea why?

 


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   01/02/2008, 15:11
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As you can imagine I ve been thinking about it a lot..

Control freaks maybe.. people who don't want to share the power of decisions, who want to control everything, who want to stand in the light and push the others in the shadow.. See what I mean ? ( even if my command of English is cr*p) 


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   01/02/2008, 15:12
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I appreciate it is of little help but in my experience (actual experience, not my thinking aloud) those to behave in such a manner are often quite insecure.  I have seen it in people who are new to a company and feel they have to prove themselves (and if they are brought in at a senior level, some others might start behaving in a similar manner - sort of trying to be a "kindred spirit" to their new boss).  Other times I've seen it is people who are not so good at doing what they are meant to and have to try and be "superior" in other ways (also to cover-up that they are not great at their jobs).

I'm sure there are other circumstances but I'm just describing where I've seen it happen.

Those to behave in such a way only speak volumes about their own character/nature and whilst I expect others see what is happening, in the UK people are not generally motivated to sort out the offending person.

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   01/02/2008, 16:10
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 Frenchie wrote:

Indeed, nothign to do with sexual matters, just being put aside when decisions are taken, not being informed of meetings being held, gossiping, insults, etc..

The result ? being isolated with just one very good friend at work, and I feel so bad.

The situation is obviously affecting you otherwise you would'nt have posted, so you must do something about it.    I was involved in workshops which addressed this type of situation before I came to France.     If you feel all the above is happening you must advise your superiors / management, advising them that they may not believe its happening, but state you have felt it has been for some time, and as a way to take it forward and stop it from happening you intend to make a log of such situations and return to them in (say....one month - or whatever you feel is the right length of time), with the hope that the matter can be put right by them very quickly.       If management are good management this will be kept totally confidential.    Good Luck Frenchie.


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   01/02/2008, 16:21
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It is a recognised problem, and isn't committed just by insecure individuals, but sometimes by entire teams of co-workers.

There are many webpages devoted to it.  Here's one http://www.doctissimo.fr/html/psychologie/mag_2001/mag0112/ps_2809_harcelement_moral.htm

 


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   01/02/2008, 17:16
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I think jealousy could be a factor.

Frenchie - you are an attractive, single mother and I imagine - from your immpecable english and positve, fun attitude on the forum - that you are also a good teacher and popular with your students.  Maybe some of the married staff feel threathened by you and are envious of your lifestye - travelling to Britain and meeting new people while they are stuck in a stale marriage and consider their job to be a grind.

Very Marge Proops (agony aunt)  of me I know - but this is MY gut feeling. 


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