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   26/12/2007, 22:06
Rob Roy is not online. Last active: 20/11/2008 06:46:46 Rob Roy



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Just to add a bit more to this discussion - I have taught English in primary schools, and at present it works like this:

University students who are native English speakers can apply to teach English in primary schools for nine months October - June. They can ask for where they want to teach, but this will not always be taken into account. If there are not enough applicants for the posts available in a particular area then teachers are appointed from those that live locally and have applied for jobs. The posts are only for the nine months as students have priority each year. In this area you are employed for 12 hours per week, and in my case it was spread between 6 schools, and three different year groups, in Brive. You are only paid for your working hours, not for travelling or time spent between schools or the time spent preparing and marking work. Resources are not always good although you are expected to follow the designated course and although you are classed as an 'assistant' you are in fact in charge of up to 26 children, depending on the school.

It can be hard work, frustrating and tiring but having said all that I enjoyed it and would do it again should the opportunity arise.

 


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   26/12/2007, 22:10
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   27/12/2007, 9:50
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I have been teaching English in France for many years and have the RSA/TEFL Dip (now known as DELTA) which is a widely recognised qualification. There is a big demand for native English speaking teachers paid hourly rates of between 10 - 50 euros. Reputable language schools usually pay between 20 and 25 euros plus travel expenses if you are sent out to work in a company. Universities, IUTs, grandes écoles and sometimes BTS courses pay a higher rate but the catch is that to be a 'vacataire' (houly paid teacher) you need to prove that you are doing 333 hours of 'normal' teaching work (eg language school). That is to say they will ask you to fill in a dossier signed by your 'employeur principal' before you can get paid. Another disadvantage is that you're often paid months after having started work ! A good place to look for work is on the ANPE site http://anpe.fr/  type in 'formateur' as the job description and choose the area you would like to work in. The site is updated daily. Although a TEFL diploma is good to have especially if you want to work in Paris I should think your present qualification would be useful. I have also worked in primary schools but nowadays it is very poorly paid and as another post said you could find yourself traveling from school to school with no travel expenses or allowance for the 'holes' between lessons. Regarding 'college' and 'lycée' you will need the CAPES (although strangely, in higher education - universites, IUT etc - you do not need qualifications if you're a vacataire !
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   27/12/2007, 10:02
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 jlb wrote:
I (although strangely, in higher education - universites, IUT etc - you do not need qualifications if you're a vacataire !

This wasn't my experience.
I had to prove that I had a Master's degree in English.
Your point about there being a big demand may be true in Paris, but sadly not in many smaller cities.
The DELTA is only useful for language schools.

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   27/12/2007, 10:31
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Seconded.
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   27/12/2007, 20:41
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 woolybanana wrote:
Generous contracts thenDevil [6]

Oh yes, fantastic!Wink [;-)] Although having said that I was earning more per hour than my husband was as a qualified panel beater with 25 years experience - he got little more than the minimum wage.

Funnily enough for those students who go to the UK to do the same thing they are paid for their 'blocked time'  i.e. when they are between lessons and can't do anything else!Confused [8-)]

 

 


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   04/01/2008, 10:34
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Hi,

This has been quite an interesting thread. I'm currently studying for a masters in applied linguistics but specialising in Teaching english to speakers of other languages (TESOL), I'm looking to start teaching part-time this year and was wondering if anyone could suggest any books in regards to the french system...

Basically i'm not sure of what level english should be in 6éme etc...

Thanks


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