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05/06/2007, 14:33 Dee&Tom Joined on 21/06/2006 Vienne, France Posts 14 Re: Move hanging on the dog Fig We have got friends that own 2 pure breed Staffies and their only stipulation by the local police when they were first spotted in town walking them was that they both needed to be muzzled and on a lead - because of this they bought a very cheap plot of land in the middle of no-where which couldn't get planning permission and walk their dogs on that!   Good luck with your move Dee&Tom    Report

11/06/2007, 12:59 Framboise Joined on 29/11/2006 At home in the Orne Posts 508 Re: Move hanging on the dog I did not realise that a dog's breed might be an issue, apart from pitbulls. We have a labrador x bull mastiff.  Ed is a big gingery/chocolate sort of fat Lab with a head the size of a bucket and stumpy legs, who is also a gentle and daft old wally who adores our grand-daughter.  Unfortunately other dogs like to pick fights with him so wherever he goes he has to be muzzled, much for his own protection as anything else, so does this mean we would have issues with the authorities when we move next year?   He is already chipped and jabbed to which our vet never mentioned a word about unacceptable breeds.  Help! Likewise, we also have a young Dogue de Bordeaux, another rescue case.   She is completely potty because she is only 14 months old, but am I right in assuming that because she is a French breed that this would not be a problem?   She has been "chipped and pinned" already.    I am now concerned that when we take the pair of them out for Christmas we might have trouble with the authorities.    Report

11/06/2007, 13:55 Christine Animal Joined on 14/05/2005 Deux-Sèvres Posts 4,367 Re: Move hanging on the dog All this is getting out of hand, I think I'm going to have to write to Sarkozy !   This ridiculous law is causing a lot of problems and nice friendly dogs are being put down in fourrières simply because the vet says they have the morphology of a Pit Bull, whatever mixture they may be ! Of course we don't want dangerous dogs on the streets, but instead of putting them down just because of what they happen to look like, it would seem far more intelligent to have them checked by a behaviourist and when judged to have a stable, friendly nature, to be let out under certain conditions.  These could be that the animal is neutered, insured, declared at the Mairie and to really make sure, wear a muzzle in public and be periodically controlled by a behaviourist. It's too easy and unfair to condemn them to death simply on their physical aspect when they are often far better natured than some other dogs who do not "qualify" physically.  The number of poor Rottweilers who are put down in fourrières is unbelievable, just because the fashion moved on to them. There are many French people who are against this law and there is a petition http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/sauveznoschiens/   Framboise, I don't know what your Labrador x Bull Mastiff looks like, but it seems it is going to be up to the owner of a cross to be able to prove what it is. The Dogue de Bordeaux is not concerned by the law, neither is the Staffordshire Bull Terrier with a pedigree.   animalaidsaintaubin.monsite.orange.fr/ Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful    Report

27/07/2007, 16:11 Christine Animal Joined on 14/05/2005 Deux-Sèvres Posts 4,367 Re: Move hanging on the dog       This dog was called Kenzo.  He was tattooed and identified as a Boxer cross.  He was loved by all, family and neighbours for five years and was a great friend of the children, especially the little girl of the family.  While out walking with a member of the family, he was stopped by the police and taken to the fourrière of Le Havre where two vets confirmed he had the morphology of a Pit Bull and sentenced him to death.  He suffered greatly in the fourrière for a month as can be seen on this photo.  His family went to see their beloved companion every day, taking him food and trying to comfort him, hoping he would be released, unable to believe that this could be possible. Many of us signed a petition to try to save Kenzo, but he was put down in the presence of his family on Tuesday morning.  Will his family ever get over their loss and what they went through ?  Why should a loving companion who was only sweet and gentle to everyone be taken from his family and put down ?  This is what is happening with this stupid law. I do not want to frighten anyone, but maybe you should be aware of what is going on.                   Here is Lily (that is what I called her).  She was found and taken to the Niort fourrière.  She was so incredibly sweet too, I wanted to take her out.  She could have been a Staffie/Bull Terrier cross.  But no, they said, although agreeing how good natured she was, she had the morphology of a Pit Bull.  I did all I could to save her, even the SPA in Paris were in contact with the Mairie of Niort to try to find a solution for this lovely little dog.  But Lily was put down on 21st June.   animalaidsaintaubin.monsite.orange.fr/ Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful    Report

29/07/2007, 15:05 Framboise Joined on 29/11/2006 At home in the Orne Posts 508 Re: Move hanging on the dog Think this is much the same as my query on another posting regarding my two dogs.  Ed is a Labrador/Bull Mastiff cross - basically a fat choco lab.  Harley is a dogue de bordeaux pure bred, but she came with no papers as such because she was a rescue which as I understand is the norm so that potential owners will not be able to profit from taking her in.   This was also the case with a pure bred Great Dane we took in some years ago. Harley will also be spayed in September. It is highly unlikely they will ever be taken for walkies around town anway, but Ed is always muzzled when I take him out now as other (small) dogs seem to fancy their chances with him for some unknown reason and he did not take any prisoners when they started on him!  Being muzzled is for his benefit as much as the other party. I shall monitor this with interest because we have no intention of leaving our dogs here with our son when we depart in the Spring.    Report

08/11/2007, 17:42 Christine Animal Joined on 14/05/2005 Deux-Sèvres Posts 4,367 Re: Move hanging on the dog Here is Patricia "Rackaila4Pattes" and here is her site http://rackaila4pattes.forumscompany.com/    ' Patricia loves all dogs and is especially concerned for the "molosses" (a word I dislike).  She is a very controlled, placid, kind person.  She knows they are suffering from discrimination and bad publicity due to the medias and a few very bad owners.  She knows you should never leave a young child alone with dogs, whatever breed, that these dogs are not nastier than others with love and the right education.  'CE N'EST PAS LES RACES A PUNIR , MAIS LES MAUVAIS MAITRES !! Patricia did all she could to help me and guide me in trying to save Lily in my post above.  We failed, but I shall never forget her kindness and support. She was interviewed on the news, Fr3 Toulouse.  She said it wasn't easy, but she tried to talk from her heart.  I admire her for doing it.  It's just after the sport at the beginning. http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-991557099242786574    Merci Patricia pour tout ce que tu fais.   animalaidsaintaubin.monsite.orange.fr/ Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful    Report

09/11/2007, 22:03 Chrisb Joined on 23/08/2004 Manche (50) Posts 283 Re: Move hanging on the dog She did really well, and came across as very likeable and matter of fact - I liked the fact that she made about dogs not being used as baby-sitters, and how often they will warn a child as they would a puppy, but the child doesn't stop so they attack.....................therefore it is down to the owners to educate their children, and not the fault of the dog - hear, hear !! Chris PS Took me a moment or two to tune into her accent - they don't talk like that round my way!!!    Report

09/11/2007, 22:55 Christine Animal Joined on 14/05/2005 Deux-Sèvres Posts 4,367 Re: Move hanging on the dog Yes, she has the lovely accent du sud !  Did you see her other little videos, of which this one http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=3243707396204138803   animalaidsaintaubin.monsite.orange.fr/ Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful    Report

07/12/2007, 18:04 Christine Animal Joined on 14/05/2005 Deux-Sèvres Posts 4,367 Re: Move hanging on the dog I am in tears and so you will be seeing this photo of Jonathan saying goodbye to his beloved Kenzo (mentioned above) before he was put down.  This dog was innocent, he had done nothing to anyone, but show his love and affection to all.  Everyone must know what they are doing to our dogs.  Kenzo was tattooed as a Boxer cross.  I am proud to be a member of the Association Kenzo in his memory.                                                   animalaidsaintaubin.monsite.orange.fr/ Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful    Report

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