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 31/03/2008, 10:45
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sunflowers
Joined on 21/08/2007
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Re: Practical info on the new permis de construire
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Hi
I'm looking for some help on the new permis de construire. I submitted an application in January to raise the roof slightly on my house. As the house is considered to be in a conservation area it has come back from the DDE requesting further information. However I am at a loss as to what they are looking for. They mention various reference numbers - which I presume relate to various forms that need to be included - eg "PCM14 - Une notice décrivant le terrain et présenant le projet".
Does anyone know if there is a standard form for this - I've searched on the official website but can't find anything. It all seems so complicated that I am now inclinded to just forget the whole thing !!!
Thanks for your help
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Yesterday, 7:46
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jude
Joined on 28/08/2008
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Re: Practical info on the new permis de construire
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Below is info on PC MI 04 - we made the same mistake to start with - thinking it was PCM 14!! I hope it's helpful! I think that basically this is a description of the works you want permission for. It's copied from somewhere - so not our words.
PC MI 4 - Article R 431-8 du code de l'urbanisme
Le projet architectural comprend une notice précisant :
· 1º L'état initial du terrain et de ses abords indiquant, s'il y a lieu, les constructions, la végétation et les éléments paysagers existants ;
· 2º Les partis retenus pour assurer l'insertion du projet dans son environnement et la prise en compte des paysages, faisant apparaître, en fonction des caractéristiques du projet :
o a) L'aménagement du terrain, en indiquant ce qui est modifié ou supprimé ;
o b) L'implantation, l'organisation, la composition et le volume des constructions nouvelles, notamment par rapport aux constructions ou paysages avoisinants ;
o c) Le traitement des constructions, clôtures, végétations ou aménagements situés en limite de terrain ;
o d) Les matériaux et les couleurs des constructions ;
o e) Le traitement des espaces libres, notamment les plantations à conserver ou à créer ; f) L'organisation et l'aménagement des accès au terrain, aux constructions et aux aires de stationnement.
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Yesterday, 13:23
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leslieneils
Joined on 14/03/2008
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Re: Practical info on the new permis de construire
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A pretty good review in English of the new permis de construire rules can also be found here:
http://www.french-property.com/guides/france/building/planning/
We got caught out on the regs concerning attic conversions, hoping it would not require any formalities, but ending up having to put in a works declaration as we managed to keep it just below 20m2.
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Today, 9:36
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jude
Joined on 28/08/2008
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Re: Practical info on the new permis de construire
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In addition to my previous response - We believe that there is no form, it is just a notice, which you write! What is required (we believe) is a full description of the works. We had previously had some plans drawn up by and architect (or so he called himself) and we took the format that he had used making sure we had included all that it asked for in that list in the first post I made in response to your enquiry.
We wrote it in the 3rd person/passive. just wrote a series of sentences relating to each of the aspects of our planned work (in so far as we could!), the orientation (sud, est etc) and noted the materials to be used. We had had the same problem as you - we had submitted the new version of the Declaration de Travaux and DDE came back to us asking for Planning Permission - I went to see the writer of the letter at the office in Cahors to find out exactly what was expected. He was helpful but I got the impression that he was not used to receiving visitors!!
He had also prepared a little sketch (he didn't know I would call in!) and I was told that if our proposal didn't look like that - it wouldn't be passed! ahhh well! We've just re-submitted, so we await developments!
Good Luck with your application. ![Confused <img src=]() " src="/cs/images/emotions/confused.gif">
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