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21/10/2007, 11:06 Ron Avery Joined on 29/11/2004 Aveyron 12 Posts 3,355 Re: Contibutions sociales Form received for first time in 6 years??? Thanks SD got the CRDS payment method mixed up, I knew it was imposed twice on earned and unearned income so to speak. I will edit the post above to correct this error, apologies for any confusion.  Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more    Report

21/10/2007, 18:23 aj_dr Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 135 Re: Contibutions sociales Form received for first time in 6 years??? Thanks SD.  I will have a look at our Tax Forms, this didn't apply for the previous 2 years as we had been paying into the French Health system. As you say it won't amount to much although I did have some other pensions cut in when I was 60 but I will be prepared for next year!! aj    Report

22/10/2007, 18:54 Bugbear Joined on 15/11/2006 Vienne (86) Posts 4,047 Re: Contibutions sociales Form received for first time in 6 years??? We also received our Contributions Sociales for the first time and following the reading of this thread, made a visit to the 'Tres' today. We are both in receipt of a pension. one occupational and one state pension. They are our only income and we have an E121. We were told (by a very nice lady) that the details were correct and we will have to pay. The figure is based on the 0.05%. On the basis of this someone is wrong somewhere................................ "Life is Short - Forgive Quickly - Love Truly - Laugh Uncontrollably........ and get yourself an Apple Mac".    Report

22/10/2007, 19:29 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 3,114 Re: Contibutions sociales Form received for first time in 6 years??? The 'Tres' is only the collection agency for the debt - they have no idea of or interest in the actual background to the debt - which lies with the centre des impots. You need to take it up with your tax office. Unless you are getting a good bit of bunce, the 0,5% charge is likely to be quite small so rather than get into protracted arguments, you may want to consider writing it off for this year. For next year, omit your foreign pension income from box TL so there's no CRDS generated......   Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

22/10/2007, 19:43 Ron Avery Joined on 29/11/2004 Aveyron 12 Posts 3,355 Re: Contibutions sociales Form received for first time in 6 years??? On the basis of this someone is wrong somewhere................................ Yes the French tax office.  You are exempt from CRDS on earned income like pensions etc if you have an E 121.  If you have savings interest, then you pay CRDS and CSG etc on that.  SD will confirm this ( well he would have done if I had not looked up the box number and typed slower) and the statute under which they cannot take CRDS if you have an E form. The error may yours in that you included the total pensions in box TL on your tax return, if you put the total in there, you pay CRDS on it. Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more    Report

22/10/2007, 20:12 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 3,114 Re: Contibutions sociales Form received for first time in 6 years??? Are you stalking me or what.... The mistake must be Bugbear's - after all, he rides a Triumph....     Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

22/10/2007, 20:25 Bugbear Joined on 15/11/2006 Vienne (86) Posts 4,047 Re: Contibutions sociales Form received for first time in 6 years???  Ron Avery wrote: On the basis of this someone is wrong somewhere................................ The error may yours in that you included the total pensions in box TL on your tax return, if you put the total in there, you pay CRDS on it. Sorry Ron, but we were issued with, and filled in form 2042SK (Declaration Preremplie Simplifiee) and there is no box TL on that form. It was our fourth annual return but 2006 was the first full year of my occupational pension. Interestingly, they have also calculated the amount we owe based on the gross of our combined pensions. I'll have to go down the tax office I guess, as SD advised. edit: it seems an awfully long time since I've been out on the bike SD..... "Life is Short - Forgive Quickly - Love Truly - Laugh Uncontrollably........ and get yourself an Apple Mac".    Report

22/10/2007, 20:56 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 3,114 Re: Contibutions sociales Form received for first time in 6 years??? Strange. Inputting your pensions into box AS and box BS doesn't generate the social charge because it's normally deducted as source on pensions (French ones, that is - this is a French tax declaration after all).  That's why foreign johnnies without E121s have to additionally input their total pensions income in box TL - that's the one which generates the CRDS charge. It'll be interesting to hear what the tax office have to say about it.     Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

22/10/2007, 23:39 Ron Avery Joined on 29/11/2004 Aveyron 12 Posts 3,355 Re: Contibutions sociales Form received for first time in 6 years??? ................and filled in form 2042SK (Declaration Preremplie Simplifiee) and there is no box TL on that form. Well there is on my one in section 8 AUTRES IMPUTATIONS , back page.. Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more    Report

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