Re: Electricity bills expected to rise

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Electricity bills expected to rise

Clair 29/07/2009, 12:13

Electricité: hausse des factures attendue (Electricity bills expected to rise)

Clair

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Re: Electricity bills expected to rise

Benjamin 29/07/2009, 15:05
My bill to the end of June has on it:

Les tarifs de lélectricité augmentent de 2% le 15/08/2008.
Vous trouverez plus dinformations sur www.edf.fr.

Benjamin

Is Miki back?

Re: Electricity bills expected to rise

parsnips 29/07/2009, 17:08

Benjamin wrote:
My bill to the end of June has on it:

Les tarifs de lélectricité augmentent de 2% le 15/08/2008.
Vous trouverez plus dinformations sur www.edf.fr.

Hi,
Let's hope it stops there, EDF have asked the government to approve a 20% rise over the next 3 years. Hopefully this will not be politically possible.

Re: Electricity bills expected to rise

Martin963 29/07/2009, 17:27
Leaving aside the standing charge, French electricity prices have been very stable in comparison with those of us unfortunate enough to have to pay British prices.

In the ten years we've had a house in 24 the increase has been a few %, whilst in Britain they have - quite simply - doubled.

And I know which country I think it more likely to have the lights going out in 2015.......

Re: Electricity bills expected to rise

danny 29/07/2009, 18:47
According to E Control and VaasaETT prices as of June 2009 are as follows for the UK and France to include all taxes and distribution taxes.

London UK 13.93€

Paris France 12.32€

I make that 1.61€ or 12.45% difference per kWh.

Using the figures that you quoted the prices in the UK have been much lower than France for the majority of the last 10 years.

Re: Electricity bills expected to rise

Martin963 29/07/2009, 21:08
Puzzling. I'll look out my bills tomorrow.

What do those figures you give actually mean? Per month? Per week?   They aren't the price per kWh, that would be an outrageous rate!!

I was just looking at the price per kWh (and doing it from memory, I actually did the calc about two years ago).

I'll take another look when time allows.   What I do know is that our Devon EDF kWh rates went up in leaps and bounds particularly over the last three years.   We moved to Scottish Power which has reduced them back (a bit) to 11 p kWh peak and 5 p kWh off-peak, with higher charges of about 16 p for the first 220 kWh per quarter on the peak rate (representing the standing charge).   EDF wanted over four bob per kWh for the first 200 nits a quarter. FOUR BOB!!!!

Laters

Current France tariff peak € 0.0803, off peak € 0.0472 per kWh

tariff in March 1999 peak FF 0.5311, off peak FF 0.3242 soit € 0.0809 and €0.0494.

Unless I'm missing something the unit costs for the actual electricity are virtually unchanged here in Perigord at least, as I suspected. Whereas they've doubled in Devon.   I have not accounted for standing charges, but the only additional "autres prestations" seems to be €0.0045 per kWh which on our bill comes out at €3.72 last quarter.

Re: Electricity bills expected to rise

NormanH 30/07/2009, 6:47
Don't forget 'taxes locales' and TVA

On a 'consommation' of
of 560 euros worth of electricity + 95 euros of 'abonnement' these (plus 'autre prestations') took my bill up to 890. this last year
That is to say 240 euros of taxes, and 95 euros of standing charges.

Re: Electricity bills expected to rise

Martin963 30/07/2009, 8:17
No indeed.   But I have said twice that I am looking at the price per kWh only, and comparing the increase in that figure for Britain and for France.

I'm trying to see how the cost of electricity has changed, not a whole load of other add-ons.

As for the standing charge, we now pay €20.35 per month. in 1999 it was FF 124.60, ie € 18.99.   A very small increase.

It still seems to me that French customers (mainly presumably because of nuclear energy prices being stable) have a lot lot less to complain about than those of us with supplies in rip-off Britain.   Maybe the howls of anger over the increase in electricity and gas prices in Britain over the last three years simply don't register amongst the ex-pat community, who then are scandalised by a couple of % increase here in France.......

But I would be the first to concede that labour's trashing of the £ makes everything seem more expensive in France.

Re: Electricity bills expected to rise

krusty 30/07/2009, 9:04

Martinwatkins wrote:

As for the standing charge, we now pay €20.35 per month.

Our standing charge is 28.22 and a friends is 27.24

The futures so bright, I've got to wear shades.

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