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15/09/2007, 10:53 Gardian Joined on 15/02/2006 Gard Posts 1,333 Rugby World Cup 3rd XV Last night's inept performance by England just confirmed my view that none of the current squad would get in to anybody's World XV 3rd team.  Hardly surprising therefore that we were beaten out of sight by a good RSA team. Not a thing to shout about: not even a kick at goal during the whole 80 minutes (except for a couple of missed drops). I have now assumed Welsh nationality on the basis of having visited Merthyr Tydfil once or twice on business.  All the best to them today (never thought I'd find myself saying that!!)    Report

15/09/2007, 11:08 LyndaandRichard Joined on 01/05/2005 Posts 850 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV Why are southern hemisphere teams so much superior? So far Australia has 2 world cups, as has New Zealand, South Africa have one. The only other world cup was won by England. Compare the populations of those countries (Aus approx 19 million, NZ about 5 million, SA 44 million to say France 66 million, England 50 million) and the achievements look all the more amazing. Surely northern hemisphere teams with more money and more potential should be doing much, much better. Your Property in France    Report

15/09/2007, 15:55 Chief Joined on 13/06/2006 Wherever i am today Posts 312 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV  Gardian wrote: Last night's inept performance by England just confirmed my view that none of the current squad would get in to anybody's World XV 3rd team.  Hardly surprising therefore that we were beaten out of sight by a good RSA team. Not a thing to shout about: not even a kick at goal during the whole 80 minutes (except for a couple of missed drops). I have now assumed Welsh nationality on the basis of having visited Merthyr Tydfil once or twice on business.  All the best to them today (never thought I'd find myself saying that!!) Take all the other whining tw*ts with you mate....we can then start rebuilding with people who care about the country, the good and the bad.... :-)) You might not be responsible for being down, but you are responsible for getting back up again.....    Report

15/09/2007, 17:36 Jonzjob Joined on 23/08/2004 Nr Carcassonne, 11 Posts 2,696 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV I think they managed a first in this World Cup last night? A whitewash! I'm not whining and the last thing on this Earth that I would do is to live in Wales or even think about nationality, sorry Twinks!!! I just don't know how such a potentialy good team could have been so amature and I wonder if they will have the cheek to pick up their pay packets. All apart from Robinson who ran his heart out and screwed his knee! I would love to see them win again, but they will have to act like the professionals they are highly paid to be! John. The only difference between the men & the boys is the size & the shape & the price of their toys!!    Report

15/09/2007, 18:10 TWINKLE Joined on 11/03/2006 Tarn 81 Posts 3,752 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV  Gardian wrote: I have now assumed Welsh nationality on the basis of having visited Merthyr Tydfil once or twice on business.  All the best to them today (never thought I'd find myself saying that!!) Good for you boyo!  They just got slaughtered by the aussies though - I think.  Where the hell is Merthyr Tydfil? (I'll send the CD next week - promise)    Report

15/09/2007, 21:02 Patf Joined on 23/08/2004 SW Gers Posts 2,176 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV One of the biggest problems with the England team is their dozy coach  Brian Ashton - a real old fuddy duddy. Can't imagine him being inspirational. But as far as I remember no-one else wanted the job. It was so sad when Jason Robinson got injured - as someone said he seemed to be the only one with a bit of sparkle. What happened to Harry Ellis? He was so promising up to a few months ago. Surely they need to bring some more replacements over.    Report

15/09/2007, 22:47 Gardian Joined on 15/02/2006 Gard Posts 1,333 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV Ashton may or may not be a good coach, but returning to my original point, the Tri-nations sides would virtually fill a 1st, 2nd & 3rd XV, with England (in particular) and most of the other 6-Nations hardly getting a look in. It hardly matters about the strengths of the coach if the quality of the players is lacking. Sad but true. None of the major Southern hemisphere sides has (so far) struggled against so-called 'minnows' - the same can't be said for the North. When England won in 2003, we almost certainly had 5 or 6 players who would have made most people's World 1st XV.  Not now.      Report

15/09/2007, 22:58 Gardian Joined on 15/02/2006 Gard Posts 1,333 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV  TWINKLE wrote: They just got slaughtered by the aussies though - I think.  To be honest, I didn't see it as a slaughter - far from it.  They just give themselves too much to do in the 2nd half, which was fine against Canada, but too much against Australia. I'm really enjoying the tournament, but do have a problem with this 'citing' lark.  Vickery gets cited and banned for 2 matches for a totally innocuous trip.  Two blatant and dangerous body checks (one by either side) in today's Wales vs Aus game pass by with a finger-wagging.       Report

16/09/2007, 2:40 LyndaandRichard Joined on 01/05/2005 Posts 850 Re: Rugby World Cup 3rd XV Will it be the green or gold to win it again, or will the all blacks finally find some bottle and take their second crown? Your Property in France    Report

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