Just read the below, apparently the French are doing the same as the Brits do in this situation. yes panic buying.
http://www.france24.com/en/20080519-france-protests-french-fisherman-angry-fuel-prices-costs&navi=FRANCE
I would guess this is red diesel but even so still cheap, we paid 89 last week. Mind you, I think they're probably buying bit more than us
I don't think they have red diesel here Ernie, well the farmers don't anyway. A few weeks back I was talking to my oil man about farm supplies being dyed in the UK and he said the farmers get the same fuel as we do and pay for it just like us but they can claim back a large proportion of the tax as I believe can the fishermen.
Blocking the ports and oil refineries is just ridiculous, all that is going to do is push the price higher, mind you, I cannot see people panic buying, it has reached 1.40€ a litre here in the supermarkets, the local garages are far higher, but petrol does not seem to have risen pro rata or am I imagining that the price gap between diesel and petrol is narrowing?
Why not post a sensible answer, people will appreciate it more
Well my heating oil is most definately red
I can't argue with what you say Ron but if the farmers and fishermen don't use red too then what it the point of it. The only thing I can see is that it's to deter saps like me cheating by putting in our cars, can you think of any other reason ?
Pay and claim back hey, sounds suspiciously like a pointless process with no obvious puropse but to keep another handful of foncieres in a job
Nt imagination Ron nor a price gap either.
Diesel now costs the same as SP95 here, I reckon if you give it a couple of weeks there will be a price gap again but a negative one!
Bio-ethanol is currently 80cts a litre, A French friend came round today whose Renault Laguna has been using it for the last 3 months so I grilled him on the subject, cost of conversion was €400 by a local trader, he reckons that it uses about 15% more fuel than on petrol and said he has already amortised the cost after doing more than 10K Km.
I havnt had a chance to check his amortisation figures but even paying €1.44 a litre my Skoda diesel is more economical to run as I get between 55 and 65mpg dependant on whether I am towing a fully (over)laden trailer, the writing is on the wall though for diesels I believe, tomorrow I am going to check the GPL price as it is more widely available than bio-ethanol.
I also recieved a very ill concieved chain letter type E-mail suggesting that all drivers stop buying fuel from Elf, Total and I think Shell and switch to supermarkets, just who do they think supplies the supermarkets? That said we do need a French equivalent to that Welsh farmer, I wonder if he is still under surveillance?
ErnieY wrote: Well my heating oil is most definately red I can't argue with what you say Ron but if the farmers and fishermen don't use red too then what it the point of it. The only thing I can see is that it's to deter saps like me cheating by putting in our cars, can you think of any other reason ? Pay and claim back hey, sounds suspiciously like a pointless process with no obvious puropse but to keep another handful of fonciere's in a job
Pay and claim back hey, sounds suspiciously like a pointless process with no obvious puropse but to keep another handful of fonciere's in a job
Maybe its your rusty tank Ernie!! There are different grades of fuel and heating oil, one might be reddish, but its not dyed so that it can be checked. Farmers use the same diesel as the rest of us.
The purpose is that only registered farmers can claim back the tax paid, far more efficient I would suggest than having hundreds of HMRC staff checking lorries and vans for red diesel.
Plastic tanks tend not to rust Ron
AFAIK auto diesel and most heating oils (kerosene etc) are virtually colourless so why this stuff is red then I have no idea.
Anyone ?
Do HMRC still check private vehicles for red diesel ?
I suppose they do and although I can remember occassionally seeing roadside checks going on I don't think I've seen one in the last 10 or 15 years. With the current popularity of diesel cars I'd have thought that checks would be more frequent not less.
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