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16/05/2008, 16:14 dexter Joined on 31/10/2006 Posts 18 Cost of living Is the price of fuel (petrol & diesel) rising as much and as fast in France as it is here in the UK?  I`m in the fortunate position not to have to fill up every week but at the pumps this morning the price of diesel has gone up 4p in the last 3 weeks bringing it to £1.24 per litre with petrol 10p cheaper. I know that the world price of oil is rising but the cynic in me, seeing the price rise by 1p per week for the last six months or so, can`nt help but think that someone somewhere is making a killing out of joe public.  P.S. I was so busy effing and blinding to myself about the cost whilst filling the car up that I managed to fill it up with petrol,(it`s a diesel car!!) so the 10p per litre I saved on petrol has cost me best part of £350 to get back on the road!     Report

16/05/2008, 16:24 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 6,315 Re: Cost of living Yes, it's just as scary here.  1.37€ for a litre of diesel yesterday. Healthcare Issues Site    Report

16/05/2008, 16:38 ams Joined on 07/08/2007 Posts 273 Re: Cost of living €1.34 at e. leclerc this morning, €1.38 at intermarche. ams    Report

16/05/2008, 16:57 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot Posts 6,264 Re: Cost of living They had a news item on the French lunchtime news comparing petrol prices in Rome, Paris, London and Berlin. For a litre of SP95: Italy:         €1.39     (taxes 55.8%) UK:         €1.40         (taxes 67%) France:     €1.40     (taxes 59.6%) Germany:     €1.44     (taxes 61.3%) See it here (13h03mn58s): http://jt.france2.fr/13h/ Clair, a Real Virtual French Person La vérité est si obscurcie en ce temps et le mensonge si établi, qu'à moins d'aimer la vérité, on ne saurait la reconnaître. (Blaise Pascal)    Report

16/05/2008, 17:30 ErnieY Joined on 05/12/2006 Nr Prayssac (Lot) Posts 2,952 Re: Cost of living It's even scarier when you recall that at the back end of 2007 diesel was still under €1 and a £1 bought you €1.50, the equivalent of £0.66/lt. Now, @ €1.35 and with £1 worth only €1.25, for those reliant on an income converted from £ (i.e. most of us), that's a real term hike of around 65%   My doctor said one drink per day, I can live with that !    Report

16/05/2008, 18:06 powerdesal Joined on 07/01/2006 Sharjah U.A.E Posts 2,023 Re: Cost of living Given that a barrel of crude yields more diesel than petrol, hence diesel having lower refining costs per litre, why is diesel in UK more expensive at the pump than petrol? Steve Sharjah + 50 (in France) ........................................................................... Roll on death.....Demob is too far away.    Report

16/05/2008, 18:35 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot Posts 6,264 Re: Cost of living  powerdesal wrote: Given that a barrel of crude yields more diesel than petrol, hence diesel having lower refining costs per litre, why is diesel in UK more expensive at the pump than petrol? Funny that...! They're saying just the opposite here to explain the higher cost of diesel: http://jt.france2.fr/13h/   (13h02) Clair, a Real Virtual French Person La vérité est si obscurcie en ce temps et le mensonge si établi, qu'à moins d'aimer la vérité, on ne saurait la reconnaître. (Blaise Pascal)    Report

16/05/2008, 20:08 powerdesal Joined on 07/01/2006 Sharjah U.A.E Posts 2,023 Re: Cost of living Funny that..... Someone is conning us. There are different types of "cracking" processes used in oil refining. In the USA they use Catalytic cracking which produces more petrol than diesel from a barrel of crude. In the rest of the World, particularly Europe "Hydrocracking" is the preferred refinery method, this produces more diesel per barrel than petrol. Hence my statement that refined costs per diesel litre are lower is true. It doesn't matter how many TV interviewers try to say different, the facts are there. edit.  If the hydrocracking did not result in lower diesel "raw" costs, how come diesel fuel is cheaper than petrol in most countries of the World, bar UK and (I think) Sweden. For some reason it is also much more expensive than petrol here in the UAE but that is not down to refining costs but more to "socio-political" factors. Steve Sharjah + 50 (in France) ........................................................................... Roll on death.....Demob is too far away.    Report

16/05/2008, 20:34 ErnieY Joined on 05/12/2006 Nr Prayssac (Lot) Posts 2,952 Re: Cost of living I won't argue the processes however if a barrel of crude costs $125 to buy then that cost has to be recouped, plus profit of course. Would it not therefore follow that, even if Hydrocracking does produce more diesel per barrel, that is not neccessarily a reason for it to cost less. The reverse could in fact be argued that as it represents a greater proportion of the initial $125 it should cost more !   My doctor said one drink per day, I can live with that !    Report

16/05/2008, 20:45 Judith Joined on 01/02/2006 Posts 211 Re: Cost of living  powerdesal wrote: Given that a barrel of crude yields more diesel than petrol, hence diesel having lower refining costs per litre, why is diesel in UK more expensive at the pump than petrol? Isn't it something to do with the amount of tax?  Not up to date on this as don't have a car in London, but wasn't diesel taxed at a favourable rate, and then it changed????? Judith W1 and Aude    Report

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