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   08/05/2008, 10:46
Geranium is not online. Last active: 08/05/2008 09:45:10 Geranium

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Now that the elderflowers are out I want to make Elderflower Cordial this year.  All the recipes I have require citric acid.  Does anyone know what this is known as in France and where I am likely to get it from?

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   08/05/2008, 11:03
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French recipes use clear vinegar.
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Re: Elderflower Cordial
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You can buy citric acid at the pharmacy.

 

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   08/05/2008, 11:10
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You could ask in your local pharmacie, it's acid citrique. Also, I remember reading somewhere, that you can substitute it with acide tartarique, you can get that from your pharmacie.
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   08/05/2008, 11:51
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Not all Pharmacies will sell citric acid to the general public. It is part of a recipe used with heroin. I took a copy of my recipe for Elderflower cordial  with me and showed the pharmacist. She explained their caution to me.
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   08/05/2008, 11:52
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Re: Elderflower Cordial
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 JayJay wrote:
acide citrique… you can substitute it with acide tartarique, you can get that from your pharmacie.

There is a slight distinction here.  Most elderflower cordial recipes are quite heavy on citric acid, which contributes significantly to the final taste.  Whilst citric acid is 'lemony', tartaric acid has a decidedly sour taste which most people do not consider pleasant in quantity.

But, as jayjay says, citric acid is readily obtainable.



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   08/05/2008, 12:17
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Just use lemon juice.  Same effect and tastes good too
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   08/05/2008, 12:58
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Thank you. I'll try and get the acid citrique.  If I can't and choose to use lemon juice, would the quantitities be the same?  My recipe requires 75g of the citric acid.  Also would the keeping qualities be the same?

I was hoping the cordial would see us through the summer, but how long can I expect it to last in a normal air-tight bottle?

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   08/05/2008, 13:13
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75g of citric acid is quite a lot.  What quanties are you making?  I would use 1 or 2 lemons per litre, taste it and see how much is good for you. The keeping qualities are dependent on the sugar content, not the citric acid but kept in a cool dark place it should be fine for the whole summer.  If it starts to ferment, add more water and make elderflower wine Beer [B]Stick out tongue [:P]
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   08/05/2008, 21:15
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 Geranium wrote:
but how long can I expect it to last in a normal air-tight bottle?

Indefinitely, if you use camden tablets, as below.  I make mine in quantity every second year, and '06 is still fine.  It may throw off a slight haze which rises to the top and can be poured off.

ELDERFLOWER CORDIAL

Ingredients

40 heads of elderflower
1 lemon thinly sliced
5.5 pts boiling water
8 lb white sugar
5 oz citric acid
2 camden tablets

Method

1.    Place flowers in vessel with lid.  Add lemon, sugar, boiling water and stir until dissolved. 
2.    Cover and leave for 5/6 days, stirring occasionally. 
3.    Crush and dissolve two camden tablets in a little hot water and add to the vessel and stir well.  Strain through muslin. 
4.    Dissolve citric acid in a little boiling water and add to the strained juice.  Bottle in sterilized bottles.  Serve diluted to taste.



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