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09/05/2008, 15:13 tegwini Joined on 19/09/2007 Wiltshire & Vienne Posts 154 English as she is spoke ? Is it just me - am I becoming a grumpy old git,  BUT is there anyone out there like me who really sees red to read & hear poor quality English?  for example :  apostrophe 's'   everywhere !!   when plural, or slap one in if there's an  s  - why not?   or not knowing the difference between there & their using 'of'' instead of have - eg I must of made a mistake, Not knowing the difference between of & off, matching singular/plural subjects with verbs  eg  A range of goods was available, very common this one  And loads more, and you can see such silly errors on the BBC, shop signs (we have a Tony's Pizza's nearby),  loads in the classroom, and last but not least,  lots on this forum.  I don't mean typos, which are obvious, or spelling mistakes which happen to the best of us, but constant  seriously silly & unnecessary mistakes which  make my ears curl! Love to hear your opinion Regards tegwini   I think, therefore perhaps I am...    Report

09/05/2008, 15:18 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,730 Re: English as she is spoke ? I think you know my views! These are very simple things to get right (as you said elsewhere, in England we expect 8 year-olds to be able to do them). I think that perpetually getting them wrong is a disrespectful act towards the reader. I would also add to your list; starting sentences with lower-case letters, ignoring full stops, blocks of unpunctuated text. 'Text' language. Before anyone sets off, this is not about dyslexia, or any other real or imagined learning difficulty, it is about learning some simple rules and applying them. Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

09/05/2008, 15:18 krusty Joined on 13/08/2006 haute vienne (87) Posts 2,141 Re: English as she is spoke ? Me , not bothered ....we are not at school now.    Report

09/05/2008, 15:20 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,730 Re: English as she is spoke ? So writing properly was just something you did at school? Funny attitude... Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

09/05/2008, 15:22 Cat Joined on 21/01/2005 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot Posts 2,778 Re: English as she is spoke ? I find that I can be fairly forgiving about poor grammar and spelling, it is rudeness and a general lack of manners that I see as far worse forms of disrespect.  As Dick says, it's about learning a simple set of rules and applying them. Cathy Sun, sun, sun, here it comes...    Report

09/05/2008, 15:30 powerdesal Joined on 07/01/2006 Sharjah U.A.E Posts 2,008 Re: English as she is spoke ? One that really jumps out at me is loose instead of lose and vice-versa. Also the phrase "top of the hour" just where did that one come from? Steve Sharjah + 50 (in France) ........................................................................... Roll on death.....Demob is too far away.    Report

09/05/2008, 15:38 tegwini Joined on 19/09/2007 Wiltshire & Vienne Posts 154 Re: English as she is spoke ? How about :   'At the end of  the day' ,   &  'sort of'   & loads of other meaningless expressions? tegwini   I think, therefore perhaps I am...    Report

09/05/2008, 15:44 tegwini Joined on 19/09/2007 Wiltshire & Vienne Posts 154 Re: English as she is spoke ? It's just occured to me that it is good manners when writing to others to do it as well as possible.  That's not asking for much, quite apart from the fact that language is for communication,and errors cause confusion, not communication. tegwini I think, therefore perhaps I am...    Report

09/05/2008, 15:51 tegwini Joined on 19/09/2007 Wiltshire & Vienne Posts 154 Re: English as she is spoke ? A range of goods was available- sorry if this was not clear, this is correct, the singular subject is matched to the singular verb form.   This is  a very common error. I could not pm back  - the return system would not work for me - sorry! Regards tegwini I think, therefore perhaps I am...    Report

09/05/2008, 16:21 Dick Smith Joined on 23/08/2004 Surrey and Manche (Pays Mortainais) Posts 8,730 Re: English as she is spoke ? "It's just occured to me that it is good manners when writing to others to do it as well as possible.  That's not asking for much, quite apart from the fact that language is for communication,and errors cause confusion, not communication." That is a point I have made several times, and invariably been ranted down for it... Regards Dick Smith Nowhere is there warmth to be found Among those afraid of losing their ground    Report

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