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07/05/2008, 3:41 BobDee Joined on 17/08/2005 Reaup Lisse 47 Posts 112 Is an FD5 a FD5? Sounds a stupid question, but given the repeated references in this forum to the FD5 form, it is interesting to note that the FD5 form according to HMRC is this form HERE  which is actually a Company Claim form, note the FD5 reference at the top. The tax claim form for individuals is known only as "Form France Individual", no reference to FD5 appears anywhere on this form. (Latest version Aug 2007). Quite bizarre that no real reference number is allocated to such an important document. This may be nit picking but anyone making their first French tax return will find the whole process initially daunting and will take all the "sticky" FAQ's as absolute gospel.      Report

07/05/2008, 5:57 spg Joined on 23/08/2004 Southern Morbihan 56 Posts 1,049 Re: Is an FD5 a FD5?  BobDee wrote: Quite bizarre that no real reference number is allocated to such an important document. Yes, I thought the same when I rang Newcastle or Nottingham , or wherever the office is located, the chap I spoke to referred to the FD5; and when I said the form I had downloaded from the gov site had no ref number on it he replied that they still called it an FD5 though now that referred to the form for companies and, as yet, the new form for individuals had no reference number. Sue Computing - it's another world    Report

07/05/2008, 8:02 allanb Joined on 04/09/2006 Posts 444 Re: Is an FD5 a FD5?  spg wrote: Yes, I thought the same when I rang Newcastle or Nottingham , or wherever the office is located, the chap I spoke to referred to the FD5; and when I said the form I had downloaded from the gov site had no ref number on it he replied that they still called it an FD5 though now that referred to the form for companies and, as yet, the new form for individuals had no reference number. I'm sure if that had happened in Ruritania, we would all have been saying "typical bloody Ruritanian bureaucracy!"    Report

07/05/2008, 8:11 spg Joined on 23/08/2004 Southern Morbihan 56 Posts 1,049 Re: Is an FD5 a FD5?  allanb wrote: I'm sure if that had happened in Ruritania, we would all have been saying "typical bloody Ruritanian bureaucracy!" The part I found really amusing happened when I wanted a clarification of  the meaning of one of the questions on the individuals form and the (really nice) chap on the other end of the phone asked if I could read the question out to him as they only had copies of the old FD5 in front of them and, according to him, some of the questions had been rephrased for the new, numberless form, but, as yet, they had not been given copies of them. It was on the tip of my tongue to say they could download it for themselves from the gov site, as I had done, but I didn't - as he really had been very helpful. Sue Computing - it's another world    Report

07/05/2008, 8:30 BobDee Joined on 17/08/2005 Reaup Lisse 47 Posts 112 Re: Is an FD5 a FD5? The French forms seem quite logical compared to the "FD5" or what ever its called. The form seems only to have a declared purpose of proving to the UK tax authority that you are actually tax resident in France. All the stuff about UK royalties, pensions etc., is all known to the UK tax police. Double stating it, is, I suppose, yet another check that you are playing the game. In the section at the end, "I Claim repayment of...", I have entered all the tax that I think I have had deducted since being in France, and hopefully that is what I will get back. On another related point, I received a P810(T) (Tax review form), from Liverpool HMRC. I 'phoned the Liverpool number as the form says you can telephone in any changes to your tax status, and the very helpful man at t'other end of line said he had never heard of such a form, but would annotate my record to show that I had  telephoned in a no change status. Who do they employ these days? Makes you feel really warm about the running of the old country. As I type, one of our cats has just puked up on my desk, narrowly missing the "FD5". As least someone knows what they are doing!    Report

07/05/2008, 11:31 lorna Joined on 27/11/2007 the other Vienne - in Isère(38) Posts 82 Re: Is an FD5 a FD5? Coincidentally, I had just this morning got out my FD5 and P85 forms which I had requested from HMRC after reading the posts on this forum. I had received them a while ago but just tucked them away. Now that my husband is busy filliing in our first tax return I finally got the forms out to complete and was immediately puzzled by the title and company references on the FD5 form. Thinking I must have asked for the wrong form I have just logged in and done a search on FD5 and of course found this post! Looks like I'll have to download the correct form and get a move on or I'm going to be in trouble with my OH - probably already am lorna    Report

07/05/2008, 11:51 sweet 17 Joined on 05/08/2006 charente maritime Posts 2,048 Re: Is an FD5 a FD5?  BobDee wrote: As I type, one of cats has just puked up on my desk, narrowly missing the "FD5". As least someone knows what they are doing! This has convinced me, if I needed convincing at all, that cats have superior intelligence to almost all other animals.    Report

07/05/2008, 12:59 powerdesal Joined on 07/01/2006 Sharjah U.A.E Posts 2,024 Re: Is an FD5 a FD5?  sweet 17 wrote:  BobDee wrote: As I type, one of cats has just puked up on my desk, narrowly missing the "FD5". As least someone knows what they are doing! This has convinced me, if I needed convincing at all, that cats have superior intelligence to almost all other animals. Obviously not that superior - it missed (albeit narrowly pp BobDee's post) Steve Sharjah + 50 (in France) ........................................................................... Roll on death.....Demob is too far away.    Report

07/05/2008, 13:59 sweet 17 Joined on 05/08/2006 charente maritime Posts 2,048 Re: Is an FD5 a FD5? You've got a point.  Plus, he had to clean up his desk and still fill in the form!    Report

13/05/2008, 12:28 cruddler Joined on 20/07/2007 71 Posts 35 Re: Is an FD5 a FD5? Do you still need to fill in an FD5 if you have already been removed from the UK Tax System? After some delay I have eventually been issued a NT Tax Code by the UK and my Tax Office insists that once I receive my P60, my tax for the last tax year will automatically be refunded. They had never heard of an FD5 and didnt see that it was necessary    Report

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