Sounds a stupid question, but given the repeated references in this forum to the FD5 form, it is interesting to note that the FD5 form according to HMRC is this form HERE which is actually a Company Claim form, note the FD5 reference at the top. The tax claim form for individuals is known only as "Form France Individual", no reference to FD5 appears anywhere on this form. (Latest version Aug 2007).
Quite bizarre that no real reference number is allocated to such an important document.
This may be nit picking but anyone making their first French tax return will find the whole process initially daunting and will take all the "sticky" FAQ's as absolute gospel.
BobDee wrote: Quite bizarre that no real reference number is allocated to such an important document.
Yes, I thought the same when I rang Newcastle or Nottingham , or wherever the office is located, the chap I spoke to referred to the FD5; and when I said the form I had downloaded from the gov site had no ref number on it he replied that they still called it an FD5 though now that referred to the form for companies and, as yet, the new form for individuals had no reference number.
Sue
spg wrote:Yes, I thought the same when I rang Newcastle or Nottingham , or wherever the office is located, the chap I spoke to referred to the FD5; and when I said the form I had downloaded from the gov site had no ref number on it he replied that they still called it an FD5 though now that referred to the form for companies and, as yet, the new form for individuals had no reference number.
allanb wrote: I'm sure if that had happened in Ruritania, we would all have been saying "typical bloody Ruritanian bureaucracy!"
The part I found really amusing happened when I wanted a clarification of the meaning of one of the questions on the individuals form and the (really nice) chap on the other end of the phone asked if I could read the question out to him as they only had copies of the old FD5 in front of them and, according to him, some of the questions had been rephrased for the new, numberless form, but, as yet, they had not been given copies of them. It was on the tip of my tongue to say they could download it for themselves from the gov site, as I had done, but I didn't - as he really had been very helpful.
The French forms seem quite logical compared to the "FD5" or what ever its called. The form seems only to have a declared purpose of proving to the UK tax authority that you are actually tax resident in France. All the stuff about UK royalties, pensions etc., is all known to the UK tax police. Double stating it, is, I suppose, yet another check that you are playing the game. In the section at the end, "I Claim repayment of...", I have entered all the tax that I think I have had deducted since being in France, and hopefully that is what I will get back.
On another related point, I received a P810(T) (Tax review form), from Liverpool HMRC. I 'phoned the Liverpool number as the form says you can telephone in any changes to your tax status, and the very helpful man at t'other end of line said he had never heard of such a form, but would annotate my record to show that I had telephoned in a no change status.
Who do they employ these days? Makes you feel really warm about the running of the old country.
As I type, one of our cats has just puked up on my desk, narrowly missing the "FD5". As least someone knows what they are doing!
BobDee wrote: As I type, one of cats has just puked up on my desk, narrowly missing the "FD5". As least someone knows what they are doing!
As I type, one of cats has just puked up on my desk, narrowly missing the "FD5". As least someone knows what they are doing!
This has convinced me, if I needed convincing at all, that cats have superior intelligence to almost all other animals.
sweet 17 wrote: BobDee wrote: As I type, one of cats has just puked up on my desk, narrowly missing the "FD5". As least someone knows what they are doing! This has convinced me, if I needed convincing at all, that cats have superior intelligence to almost all other animals.
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