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   01/05/2008, 13:00
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Is there another name for this verb ? as Im being asked to change a pice of text into the PP but I dont have a heading with this title in my verb book.

This is all I can find on the subject in another book, Can any one expand on this ?

A verb form which is used to form perfect and pluperfect tenses and passives, for eg Watched , swum .

Some past participles are also used as adjectives for eg a broken watch .

Am I right in thinking these are PP's

reçu = received

lu = read

écrit = wrote

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   01/05/2008, 13:26
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I dont know what it is called in your verb book Pads but in mine (bescherel) it is the participe passé.

You are correct in your thinking, Bien pensée!


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   01/05/2008, 13:34
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Pads,

You're bang on. The past participle is the bit of the past tense that comes after the avoir or etre bit.

It works the same way in French as it does in English when you say "I have walked" or "he has eaten". In each of these examples the word after the "have/has" bit is the past participle.

If you google for past participle you'll get lots of useful (but sometimes baffling) hits. This one came halfway down the first page when I tried it. http://french.about.com/library/verb/bl-pastparticiple.htm

In fact that looks like a pretty useful site anyway.


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   01/05/2008, 13:37
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Nope dont have that either Confused [8-)]

so would:

Vu = seen

Bu = drunk

Plu = rained

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   01/05/2008, 13:42
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Yes to all - well done.

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   01/05/2008, 13:50
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 Pads wrote:
Am I right in thinking these are PP's

reçu = received      correct

lu = read      correct

écrit = wrote   incorrect - should be written


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   01/05/2008, 13:55
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Thanks Albert I missed that at first but thats a good site.

So this sentance would say :

Il n'a pas plu et je n'ai pas overt mon parapluie

It never rained and I never opened my umbrella ?? which Isnt right but do you have to change every thing else to fit in ?

This looks more like It didnt rain and i didnt open my umbrella Confused [8-)]  

After a little more thinking is it.....

It has not rained and I have not opened my umbrella .....?


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   01/05/2008, 15:03
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In French there is no way to distinguish between these:

It rained

It has rained

It did rain.

They would all be "il a plu".

The "never" bit would need "jamais": "Il n'a jamais plu."

 


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   01/05/2008, 16:39
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   01/05/2008, 16:49
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 cooperlola wrote:
"Je n'ai pas ouvri ..."  ouvert is an adjective; ouvri is the past participle of the verb ouvrir.

Ouvert is the pp of ouvrir, Coops.

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