I am not vegan, but...

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I am not vegan, but...

Christine Animal 25/04/2008, 15:45

not far off, I'm really not that hungry. My heart feels so heavy (you don't have to watch)

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=7rRWLTGSNvg&NR=1

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=8zVL9lDW7RE

How can this be authorised?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfRvF71ftrU

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Limousin Lass 25/04/2008, 17:46

I couldn't watch them all the way through because of the tears.

Don't eat a lot of meat and am not sure after watching the bits I did see that I will eat much more, am so glad I have fish this evening.

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valB 26/04/2008, 18:05
O.M.G

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Frenchie 26/04/2008, 20:27
Christine, you were right posting this, but I am too sensitive, I did not click on the link cos such images haunt me for ever...........

I believe in miracles ..........

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cassis 26/04/2008, 20:49

Limousin Lass wrote:
Don't eat a lot of meat and am not sure after watching the bits I did see that I will eat much more, am so glad I have fish this evening.

Fortunately it doesn't have to be like that. It's not meant to be representative of the European farming industry, is it? I can't see it changing my eating habits.

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Christine Animal 26/04/2008, 21:32

No, it doesn't have to be like that and it shouldn't be like that.

This is in France

http://www.l214.com/lapins

and Europe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFp1wP9wi_E

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Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful

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Limousin Lass 27/04/2008, 5:37
Oh, Christine I thought they were going to be some nice videos to show the opposite way of keeping animals. Why is it the people working in these places have to be so insensitive to animals feelings. I could, just about, understand the need for factory farming of some animals BUT I cannot and will never understand the need for such cruelty.

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tegwini 27/04/2008, 9:38

Christine

awful, awful -

I stopped eating all meat/flesh in about 1988, initially it was a gradual change, but even the thought of the pigl forced onto vehicles with electirc prodders at my school (Burford School in Oxfordshire, which had its own farm at the time) was enough for me.

But, I am with 2 carnivores, but can't convince them to change, but they get vegetarian food as often as I can. In France it's difficult to find much when eating out even though I am not a vegan - sometimes think I should be though.

I think cruelty has increased in Europe - Halal/Kosher slaughter for example, and sadly the kind of people who do this kind of work do seem to become immume to the cruelty all around them & some even start with a nasty attitude to animals. Animal cruelty us even worse outside of Europe.

Upsetting to see these videos Christine, but I do believe you are right in showing what is happening. The world seemed not to know what was happening in *** Germany, some denied it, many did not believe it, and some claimed it could never have happened.

We need to make people more aware of what is happening now & here in 'civilised' Europe.

tegwini

I think, therefore perhaps I am...

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cassis 27/04/2008, 9:39
They don't "have to be so insensitive" there is no "need for such cruelty". There are examples of good and bad husbandry and slaughterhouses everywhere. Let's get some sense of balance, please - Christine is not claiming that this is typical of how the entire farming industry is run and so we should boycott meat products. No-one would turn vegan on the evidence of a few videos on YouTube, unless they were truly feeble minded, though they should rightly be disgusted at the videos that Christine has selected and it's natural to protest about it when such practices are exposed.

I wouldn't stop listening to all music just because someone posted a few videos of James Blunt (cue James Blunt fans to howl in protest).

Here, try this one. Nice, happy cows in France:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=CDp2IVQPZEI&NR=1

and here

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=bjy65Vl4gbs&NR=1

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=hhfSnq4xzqQ&NR=1

Zoggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Golly.

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