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24/04/2008, 14:46 Pads Joined on 24/05/2006 Cornwall/ Montage Noir Posts 3,120 Il n'y a pas ? if : il n'y a pas une  = there isnt one whats: il n'yen a pas = Thanks     Dirty Tom =^..^= Where ever I lay my paw thats my home    Report

24/04/2008, 14:50 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot Posts 6,254 Re: Il n'y a pas ?  Pads wrote: if : il n'y a pas une  = there isnt one whats: il n'yen a pas = Your starting point is incorrect. il n'y a pas une  = there isn't a (noun) so il n'y en a pas = there isn't any Clair, a Real Virtual French Person La vérité est si obscurcie en ce temps et le mensonge si établi, qu'à moins d'aimer la vérité, on ne saurait la reconnaître. (Blaise Pascal)    Report

24/04/2008, 14:53 Pads Joined on 24/05/2006 Cornwall/ Montage Noir Posts 3,120 Re: Il n'y a pas ? Ah ... Many thanks But if I want to say there isnt one here Il n'y a pas une ici ............ Yes? Dirty Tom =^..^= Where ever I lay my paw thats my home    Report

24/04/2008, 15:57 now just john Joined on 28/04/2005 Montignac le coq Posts 365 Re: Il n'y a pas ? I think it is il n'y a pas un ici  Pads    Report

24/04/2008, 16:04 Clair Joined on 23/08/2004 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot Posts 6,254 Re: Il n'y a pas ? there isn't one here = il n'y en a pas ici on the assumption that all persons present know what "one" is. For exemple, you're looking for a bar of chocolate (une tablette de chocolat). Mr Pads tells you there is one in the kitchen drawer (il y en a une dans le tiroir dans la cuisine). When you open the drawer, you find that there isn't one there (il n'y en a pas ici). Clair, a Real Virtual French Person La vérité est si obscurcie en ce temps et le mensonge si établi, qu'à moins d'aimer la vérité, on ne saurait la reconnaître. (Blaise Pascal)    Report

24/04/2008, 17:10 Pads Joined on 24/05/2006 Cornwall/ Montage Noir Posts 3,120 Re: Il n'y a pas ? Many thanks ... I think that covers what im saying after being asked if there is a lift here , im replying : Je suis désolé il n'y en a pas ici Dirty Tom =^..^= Where ever I lay my paw thats my home    Report

24/04/2008, 19:53 brianagain Joined on 08/11/2007 Somerset Posts 33 Re: Il n'y a pas ? In this context (an expression of quantity) "en" is substituted for a phrase/item already mentioned or intimated, and means essentially "of it/them/these" For example, when I have several of the same heavy items in the trolley at the supermarket checkout I will hold up one of them (such as a large bottle of beer or water) and just say "J'en ai six" - in other words "I have six of these" The person at the checkout then usually leans over to confirm this fact. Brian(again)    Report

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