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21/04/2008, 23:02 Pads Joined on 24/05/2006 Cornwall/ Montage Noir Posts 3,120 Kiddies fighting Has any one seen the advert for the programme (also on the news) about small children fighting(organised fighting by grownups ) as young as the age of five. I have no problem with children learning martial arts as a sport if that is what they want to do. but from the adverts I have seen for this programme . it appears to be run by manic parents who seem to be getting a kick out of this for there own ends !!!! they come across as very sick people , as you see one young girl crying as she dosnt want to do it and is pushed back in. This girl is made up with make up and hair spray like those poor children in ball room dancing , so she looks good for the camera's filmed by these sick parents.. Are these people normal ?  Is this the next good night out in the suburbs .... lets go see some little kids kick the *** out of each other for fun ?? Dirty Tom =^..^= Where ever I lay my paw thats my home    Report

21/04/2008, 23:09 Hoddy Joined on 23/08/2004 .....Forum Moderator..... NW Leics/SE Dordogne Posts 2,082 Re: Kiddies fighting I was quite shocked that advert too, Pads. I imagine the television company's complaint line will be blocked that night. Hoddy    Report

22/04/2008, 8:28 Limousin Lass Joined on 23/01/2007 87 Near Chalus Posts 108 Re: Kiddies fighting Yes, I also saw the trailer for this programme,  the parents reminded of the baying louts seen on programmes about dog fighting. Where are Social Services when they are needed????    Report

22/04/2008, 9:01 Gluestick Joined on 22/03/2006 UK and Nord Pas de Calais Posts 2,342 Re: Kiddies fighting I was once asked by a chum, years ago to support his son's football club match. Baying parents? These poor little lads were doing their best, whilst red-faced beer-gutted fathers ran up and down the side of the pitch, screaming and shouting at their kids to spur them on. It was, for a rugby man, a prime example of a dysfunctional society and increased my already existant hatred of and for football. Mindless morons. I did see the trailer: now martial arts used to be all about inner self-discipline, not kicking the $h1t out of another child. How very sad for the children.   "Yes, but that apart, Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?" Gluestick    Report

22/04/2008, 9:44 Hoddy Joined on 23/08/2004 .....Forum Moderator..... NW Leics/SE Dordogne Posts 2,082 Re: Kiddies fighting Gluestick you've hit on one of the reasons for the loss of many after school sports club. Quite a few of my former colleagues gave up running these because after the match they would be cornered by aggressive parents pointing out where they had gone wrong. There was no recognition that they were doing it in their own time and out of a wish to encourage the best of sporting standards among our pupils. Not surprisingly they found it was altogether more comfortable to just go home after work. Hoddy    Report

22/04/2008, 9:56 Will Joined on 22/09/2004 Sussex & 50 (Mortainais) Posts 4,727 Re: Kiddies fighting It's just an example of the pushy parents thing. Though there was a controversy a few weeks ago which ended up with a video of small kids fighting being taken off YouTube, and I believe the local police and social services got involved. But I suspect in that case the motives were a little more suspect than in the 'proper' film. See here   Will intentionally blank signature http://www.vienormande.com    Report

22/04/2008, 10:34 J.R's gone native Joined on 16/07/2006 Picardie, Sussex Posts 1,695 Re: Kiddies fighting Crawley Sussex - My birthtown! Born in a council house, lived in various council and housing association flats until I massively overstretched myself  to buy a property in a neighbouring, and still very nice village. I have never looked back since. My two sisters still live in siege conditions in council houses in the two worst estates in Crawley. I have seen the floor of the Asda supermarket in the town center littered with ready cooked chicken carcasses, half eaten French sticks and empty extra strength lager cans where some people have a  free "picnic" whilst walking around the store. It is always a relief to return to France.    Report

22/04/2008, 10:36 Patf Joined on 23/08/2004 SW Gers Posts 2,101 Re: Kiddies fighting I agree this is a horrible way to exploit children. Let's hope it puts some of them off violence altogether. Like a friend of mine who had 3 daughters who were always squabbling and scrapping. One day she made them go out into the garden and fight eachother until they cried with exhaustion. They kept the peace for a long time after that.    Report

22/04/2008, 10:44 Puzzled Joined on 05/10/2006 Posts 372 Re: Kiddies fighting I read a piece about this in Daily Mail yesterday . One of the comments was along the lines that it is filling the void left by the banning of dog fighting , let's hope that this actvity is stamped out too.    Report

22/04/2008, 11:01 Will Joined on 22/09/2004 Sussex & 50 (Mortainais) Posts 4,727 Re: Kiddies fighting  J.R wrote: Crawley Sussex - My birthtown! Born in a council house, lived in various council and housing association flats until I massively overstretched myself  to buy a property in a neighbouring, and still very nice village. I have never looked back since. My two sisters still live in siege conditions in council houses in the two worst estates in Crawley. I have seen the floor of the Asda supermarket in the town center littered with ready cooked chicken carcasses, half eaten French sticks and empty extra strength lager cans where some people have a  free "picnic" whilst walking around the store. It is always a relief to return to France. JR, thanks for saying that. When we defend England we're often told that, where we live, we are sheltered from what it is really like (rubbish, because I have to visit all sorts of unsavoury places all over Britain - and Europe - for work). But Crawley is only a few miles up the road, which is why I remembered that news story. What you describe sounds just like Netto and Super U in a place near us in France (said jokingly but there are plenty of the French chav equivalent there). But seriously, remembering the pressure I came under as a child to take part in boxing (couldn't imagine anything I wanted to do less), and how people say France is like Britain was 40 years ago, I could well imagine something like that happening in France. I've never heard of it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.  (Edit - sorry, wouldn't let me quote the full user name) Will intentionally blank signature http://www.vienormande.com    Report

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