Changes to Healthcare Entitlement, CPAM, CMU and Cartes Vitales

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   08/02/2008, 18:12
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I spoke to the Embassy yesterday, and they are confident that a new statement to CPAMs is in the pipeline.  In the meantime, they are anxious to know which CPAMs are still refusing to acknowlege the December statement, and to find out if there are any specific offices who may have refused entry to E106 holders in desperate situations, who should be accepted under the "accident de vie" provisions.  I do not need any personal details here, simply the location of your CPAM, your situation (E106 expiree with/without pre-existing conditions; CMU subscriber with or without 5 years' continuous legal residence etc.) so that we can do an analysis for them.

Please pm me if you can help.  Thanks.


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   08/02/2008, 18:34
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   08/02/2008, 20:47
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Thanks Clair.  No responses thus far, so obviously everybody has been allowed to stay in CMU, no probs, then.....

Seriously, we do need this info', in spite of the new statement today, so please respond if you can help.Smile [:)]


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   09/02/2008, 18:45
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  Situation   ---  Existing  CMU subscriber in excess of 5 years and resident since  July 2001. 

                        Letter from  Narbonne (Aude)  dated 11/1/08 terminating CMU at end of March 2008.  Appeal lodged by Email and registered letter sent to Narbonne  & Carcassonne  immediately  which has yet to be acknowleged let alone answered.


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   09/02/2008, 20:17
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Exisiting CMU subscriber, received original standard letter from CPAM des Deux-Sevres advising cover will be withdrawn on 31 March 2008.

Following the December announcement by the DSS regarding the reversal of this decision, I now await a letter from the CPAM advising me that the proposed withdrawal will no longer apply and that my exisiting cover will seamlessly continue.  My carte vitale functions as usual and I continue to pay my normal cotisations via URSSAF.

The new position is quite clear, therefore it is pointless my lodging an appeal that will just be overtaken by events....

 


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   10/02/2008, 0:36
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We were in the CPAM offices in Limoux on Thursday and the guy in the next cubicle was having great problems trying to get back in.  They called Narbonne and then told the guy that he would have to get private insurance.  After a further robust conversation they told him to produce proof that he was excluded from NHS cover.  I didn't manage to 'earwig' the whole conversation but if he reads this perhaps he can fill in the gaps.  Best of luck to him anyway! 

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   10/02/2008, 8:12
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As SD says, lets get some perspective here. We had a new attestation from CPAM in December and a recent letter from URSSAF saying when our 4th quarter payment will be taken as I suspect have many others.  Our complementaire has been renewed and we get reinbursements as we have always done.  We had the letters kicking us out of the CMU and URSSAF and then a new Attestation arrived.  Some departments are ahead of others in sorting out the mess.  However, just because you were in the CMU in November 2007 that does not give you the right to continue, if through arrogance, ignorance or just plain "couldn't produce the paper work",  you didn't comply with the request for proof of continued residence requested in September 2007. ie a copy of your French tax return. I know one person who did not do this as he did not want to be identified as an inactif, others, ex service types who never saw the need to complete a French tax return.  As many of us saw by letter in November that failure meant being kicked out of the CMU and had nothing to do with any other policy changes.Also bear in mind, Brian that bloke in the next cubicle may not have had an E 106 or could prove residence for some reason and so is not entitled to CMU cover under the new arrangements anyway.

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   10/02/2008, 8:13
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Still waiting for CPAM charente to allow me back in,here in France over 5 years residency.However being objective I suspect the problem is that the circular of December never went out to the CPAMs the same as the circular of November did not go out because the British Embassy was still querying some aspects of the rules.The latest circular of Febuary hopefully will go out if no one challenges it with a "What about the E??? people or "What about xxxxxx people"

WE will wait and see.


 

 

 

 


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   10/02/2008, 9:44
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As said above, this exercise is simply to find out if there are any particular CPAMs where large numbers of people are affected, and to get a feel for how the rules have been implemented.  BaF, three CPAMs have already acknowledged the December statement, so clearly this is not a case of the circular not having gone out.  It was - from the info we can gleen - apparently a dispute between CNAM and the ministry (which was what held up its implementation - nothing at all to do with the work being done on behalf of E106 holders in the meantime.)

Thanks, by the way, to all who have responded so far.


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