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   13/03/2008, 9:50
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Hello
Can anyone tell me if there's an easy way to bake and sell pies in France?
I'm not looking to make a fortune, but if it's necessary to have to register & pay a lot of money up front, then it will probably be a non starter.
I was wondering about selling on markets or to restaurants etc.

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   13/03/2008, 10:44
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 inkflo wrote:

I'm not looking to make a fortune ....


If we are to believe the "songs" from the terraces you would need the likes of P.Gascoigne and W. Rooney so I suspect that you will not make a fortune.

Any biz venture in France seems to require registration and upfront cotisation payments but good luck anyway. The French do not seem to embrace a pie culture so there may be a niche.

John

 


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   13/03/2008, 12:39
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 inkflo wrote:
Hello
Can anyone tell me if there's an easy way to bake and sell pies in France?
I'm not looking to make a fortune, but if it's necessary to have to register & pay a lot of money up front, then it will probably be a non starter.
I was wondering about selling on markets or to restaurants etc.

As with any food production,you will have to have the kitchen fitted as per the regs and be regularly inspected which after the initial outlay plus cotisations will probably leave you owing money. Sorry, but the rules are very strict here and you really would need to have regular clients. We have friends who are retired boucher/traiteurs etc and their laboratory for preparing foods for sale was inspected every few months and had to be upto scratch. Suggest you speak to the local Chambre de Commerce who can give you the facts.


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   13/03/2008, 17:39
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Enlighten me please.

All the foods sold on market stalls....are they working within the rules of health and safety.

People handling food should use...disposable polygloves......and not handle money, pens etc...cross contamination.

Even healthinspectors in uk seem to miss a lot of detail wrong,Thed most unhygenic things in the world are articles which have been handled by others...money etc.


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   13/03/2008, 18:57
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I know of a couple who actually do this, supplying a range of products for people on at least two markets, one of which is La Bugue.  I've only ever bought eccles cakes from them - can't beat a good eccles cake and they are good - but hubby and wife both smoke, not over the food but at the side of it and thus far I've never seen him wash his hands before he serves customers or wear polygloves.

But they're always looking for people to work with and suppliers and from what somebody told me who was in negotiation with them, they have to work all the hour sent to even break even as the market for this sort of product is really so small.  They also do curry nights to try to make more money but the whole thing isn't that well regulated judging by the way they act.

That said, a Dutch woman who sells cheese on the local markets always wears gloves, changes them regularly and has a small portable hand basin so somebody cares about health and hygeine.


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   13/03/2008, 22:10
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 Tony F Dordogne wrote:

That said, a Dutch woman who sells cheese on the local markets always wears gloves, changes them regularly and has a small portable hand basin so somebody cares about health and hygeine.

That means she's selling either Halal or Kosher.  Market days may give you a clue as to which (but it may not of course).

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   14/03/2008, 13:16
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I've just remembered.  Today is Pi day
Fool me once, shame on you
Fool me twice, shame on me
Fool me 3 times and you can see a statistical tendency
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   15/03/2008, 13:17
inkflo is not online. Last active: 29/02/2008 14:18:47 inkflo

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Thanks everyone, looks like I would have to bake on an industrial scale to cover the set up costs & be legal. I'll keep trying though.

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   15/03/2008, 14:26
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No she isn't John, it's just that she has a hand washing thing and likes to keep everything clean.
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   16/03/2008, 16:35
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 inkflo wrote:
Thanks everyone, looks like I would have to bake on an industrial scale to cover the set up costs & be legal. I'll keep trying though.

Very true, from the word go they will be sending out the bills..........one native French guy did say, whilst taking our cotisations that we could not afford, "you should always set up your business in England, like many French people do.  He also said that the French will have you closed down in three years and he was right.............Enough of the doom and gloom, good luck to you..........maybe you could supply a local shop, French or English, the brits love their pies apparently.


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