discipline in french schools

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discipline in french schools

rachelle 29/02/2008, 16:57

Does anyone know anything about discipline in french schools particularly for serious acts of violence, for example i heard they don't have true exclusions in france so how does it work? Im doing an essay on violence in french schools so any releveant information on school discipline would be very helpful.

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raindog 29/02/2008, 17:20
Switch your tv on to ARTE immediately! 'C'est Dans L'Air' is on right now and it's about violence in French schools!

sociability is just a big smile and a big smile is nothing but teeth

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Cat 29/02/2008, 17:22

Well done that man Smile [:)]

I think it's actually France 5 (I know that for a lot of people it's the same channel, switching over at 6pm). There's a discussion afterwards, or you can ask a question right now if your French is up to it.

http://www.france5.fr/c-dans-l-air/index-fr.php?page=accueil

Cathy

Sun, sun, sun, here it comes...

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raindog 29/02/2008, 17:45
oops sorry - same button for me.....

sociability is just a big smile and a big smile is nothing but teeth

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Tourangelle 29/02/2008, 18:21
It depends what you mean by serious act of violence. Obviously some just go directly to the police. But some don't especially if it is between two pupils and the parents do not wish to make a complaint.
To expell a pupil there is a procedure called a conseil de discipline. The pupil can be excluded for the time until the conseil de discipline and only return for this. The conseil is made up of some parents, some teachers, some other staff members, some pupils and always the head who is the chair. These are elected at the beginning of the year from among their peers. The child can be accompanied by their parents or somebody else of their choice. Other teachers or adults or even children can be asked to attend in order to give evidence. The head will explain the situation, go through the child's record, but just a little, in class so and so etc, then talk about the incident. Then, others will be asked to contribute, the members of the conseil can ask questions. The child will have an opportunity to say what they have to say, as will their representative. When this is all over, those who are not members of the conseil go out and there is a discussion and a vote. After, the result is handed down, it can be a permanent exclusion or a temporary one, or a suspended exclusion meaning that if anything happens in the future the child will be expelled. There you go, hope it helps.

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Val_2 29/02/2008, 20:37
Oh yes they do have permanent exclusions and not for just acts of really serious violence either but lesser acts as our neighbour's son found out when he was caught bullying and punching another pupil at the local collège. He now attends the local Maison Familiale Rurale for all it's worth as he is worse than ever by doing vandalism in the village,smoking and drinking etc just to look big in front of the other kids.I have even had the gendarmes at my door looking for him yet he is and has always been polite and friendly to us and we have know since he was a bump in his mum's tummy.

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Jura 01/03/2008, 20:47

Well, I just asked my 14 year old son what happens in his school when his schoolmates do not adhere to the rules...he said 'they get sent to the red haired lady in the office'. He said going to her is 'like going to hell'. He says she is always 'cranky and has a vendetta'. Apparently she makes them quake in their shoes at this school.

All power to her!

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Cathy 01/03/2008, 21:19

Val_2 wrote:
Oh yes they do have permanent exclusions and not for just acts of really serious violence either but lesser acts as our neighbour's son found out when he was caught bullying and punching another pupil at the local collège. He now attends the local Maison Familiale Rurale for all it's worth as he is worse than ever by doing vandalism in the village,smoking and drinking etc just to look big in front of the other kids.I have even had the gendarmes at my door looking for him yet he is and has always been polite and friendly to us and we have know since he was a bump in his mum's tummy.

Val (or anyone else) - Are Maison Familiale Rurale for such children? My 15 year old daughter is thinking of going to one because of the amount of work experience they offer. There's a porte ouverte this month.

Cathy
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Your children won't remember you ironing their pyjamas but they will remember you reading them a bedside story.

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rachelle 04/03/2008, 16:40

Are citizenship lessons compulsory in France?

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