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19/05/2008, 15:36 sweet 17 Joined on 05/08/2006 charente maritime Posts 2,041 Re: Please help.......insurance quandary I'd be wary of journalists, speaking for myself.  It's good that it's all resolved and I'd just want to get on with my life. Those who court the media could end up with a lot of egg on their faces.  Just look at the McCanns and Cherie Blair.  Makes me shudder just thinking about the press. It's like a giant beast which, once you've awakened it, could be difficult to control.    Report

19/05/2008, 15:53 Will Joined on 22/09/2004 Sussex & 50 (Mortainais) Posts 4,727 Re: Please help.......insurance quandary  sweet 17 wrote: I'd be wary of journalists, speaking for myself.  Not all of us are driven by tabloid sales or political agendas. Some of us can be nice helpful people It might be worth contacting the guy who writes in the Motoring bit of the Telegraph on Saturdays, who often features overseas insurance questions, particularly with regard to those living in France who insist on keeping British registrations - www.honestjohn.co.uk. Or maybe go for the big guns, Clarkson etc - http://www.jeremyclarkson.co.uk/  http://www.bbc.co.uk/feedback/  or http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/jeremy_clarkson/ Will intentionally blank signature http://www.vienormande.com    Report

19/05/2008, 16:30 powerdesal Joined on 07/01/2006 Sharjah U.A.E Posts 2,008 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry  opas wrote: The OUTCAST is free..........no case to answer. He has been told he has to produce a copy of his travel document , which he didn`t have because for some reason Our computer chose not to download the info so he just wrote his confirmation number down. so I shall contact norfolkline to see if they will fax a duplicate through to the relevent department. And an english translation of his green card so I am off to see the chocolate fireguard at Groupama in a mo.   Big thankyou to all who supported me and my family through this , and a big Raspberry to the not so nice people, you each know which category you fall into!   Is he free as in free to go or free as in you can go after producing said documentation ? It strikes me that the court are taking the mickey, copy of a travel doc?????? Its the EU, you surely can buy a ticket on arrival at a ferry port. Translation of green card - you must be joking, the courts are (I believe) required to have translation services available, I cant imagine a translation service to (say) Urdu not being available (for example only). If there was no case to answer then asking for the docs is trying to imply that the Police were really justified.IMHO. Steve Sharjah + 50 (in France) ........................................................................... Roll on death.....Demob is too far away.    Report

19/05/2008, 16:31 opas Joined on 23/08/2004 catalonia, top of the hill en route to the Chateau Posts 2,174 Re: Please help.......insurance quandary And the hight mare continues! The car was put in a pound with an extorionate daly rate and thee is an appointment system to get it out, nearest apiontment is Wedneday...so their bill adds up nicely. But one of the stipulations of getting the car out is to produce a valid ins docket...and so we go back to square one! if you look on the back of your green document where your window vignette comes from it actually says in English european insurance card, so I phoned the Motor ins Bureau again and was put throught to the cross boarder section, she asked me what was in box 2 box 3 etcand confirmed that the document is valid and that whoever is being awkward should phone them, Ihave told this to Outie and he said the man refused to do it, so I suggested he do it on his mobile and explain the situation then pass the phone to this guy. I have been to groupama and spoken to 2 agents to ask for an english trasnslation of my insurance and they think I am mad....it is french insurance and is written in french, I explained the principle of the green card and how we used to have to get one with a french translation for our holidays in france but "   il `nexiste pas en France ".  So does it  or not?   Next , I am not sure if I mentioned in my OP that he was supposed to be going in our Astra, but it sprung a leak in the water pump, the orriginal ferry doc were booked for the Astra. Nothing was said at the port(unfortunatly ) when he went through with the Xantia.........do the ports have video tape running and do they keep them, he has to prove how long the Xantia has been in the UK,    Report

19/05/2008, 16:55 Ole Git Joined on 19/03/2008 Perpignan Posts 13 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry  Ron Avery wrote:  Puzzled wrote: A Sunday solicitor will probably be just a solicitor's runner with little legal experience and even less knowledge of EU law.  Best chance of finding answers today is probably going to come from this forum.  What a load of ill informed tosh, a duty solicitor is a duty solicitor is a duty solicitor, and as for this Forum being the answer to outcast's problems, well as they say "you are having a laugh mate".  "Let me go because some bloke in France on French Forum said you can't keep me locked up It might escaped some people's attention and I appreciate that some, though not all, are trying to help,  that you don't get arrested and kept in cells for driving whilst uninsured nor is it an EU law offence.  He has been arrested for an offence under UK law which a UK policeman and/or custody sergeant are probably quite well informed over and the duty solicitor would be a darn sight better inforned about UK law than any of the barrack lawyers on this Forum.  You sure old outcast was not his charming old self to the boys in blue??? So  No case to answer" which was made after the CPS  withdrawing the charges, clearly proving that Plod and Custody Plod do not know how many beans make five. They certainly do not know the UK Road Traffic Act and the related insurance and overseas provisions, the MIB have a special Doc for Plods clearly outlining the Insurance Regs, which is available in the reserve and the custody suite. here is a link http://www.mib.org.uk/GreenCard/en/Default.htm contrary to your protestations, you can be arrested and held in custody for driving correctly and being Insured. Post edited by the moderators. Users must not post messages which are insulting, abusive, racist, sexist, or derogatory in any way to others, whether they are individuals or companies, users of the Forum or not. This includes material sent via personal e-mails through this forum.    Report

19/05/2008, 18:15 cassis Joined on 28/12/2007 Manhattan and Glasgow Posts 308 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry  Ole Git wrote: " No case to answer" which was made after the CPS  withdrawing the charges, clearly proving that Plod and Custody Plod do not know how many beans make five. They certainly do not know the UK Road Traffic Act and the related insurance and overseas provisions, the MIB have a special Doc for Plods clearly outlining the Insurance Regs, which is available in the reserve and the custody suite. Ron here is a link for you personally! http://www.mib.org.uk/GreenCard/en/Default.htm There again, as it says in the link: It is the responsibility of the driver to prove how long a vehicle has been in the UK. In the event that you are stopped by the Police, or any other enforcement agency, you may be asked to provide proof of port of entry or any other evidence confirming when the vehicle arrived in the UK. There are severe penalties if the law is not complied with and the Police have powers to seize and crush any vehicle they believe to be uninsured. This is something I'm sure I'll be more aware of following Outie's experience. Zoggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Golly. Lyrics copyright Sausage Music 2008    Report

19/05/2008, 20:01 Ron Avery Joined on 29/11/2004 Aveyron 12 Posts 3,095 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry Just what was there in my post that caused Opas so much angst?  The fact that I pointed out it was outcast involved?  There is nothing else that I can see that would have caused any offence.  I have not been proved wrong of every count only that I had forgotten that he would be treated as a foreign national which Ernie politely corrected me about, the rest was 100% accurate, he did kick off as we knew he would charming chap that he is.  Post edited by the moderators. Users must not post messages which are insulting, abusive, racist, sexist, or derogatory in any way to others, whether they are individuals or companies, users of the Forum or not. This includes material sent via personal e-mails through this forum. Ron in the Avey-ron    Report

19/05/2008, 20:19 Ole Git Joined on 19/03/2008 Perpignan Posts 13 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry Without wanting to procrastinate the above,  It actually refers to foreign registered vehicles, A EU plated vehicle is not considered foreign ( Except obviously to Greater Manchester Police), Russian is foreign where as Latvia and Estonia are  not that is why there has been in certain National Press great indignation that EU truckers are only summonsed for RT offences where as Foreign Truckers would be immobilised. There has recently been EU legislation to allow EU Fixed Penalty Tickets to be collected  in the Residents country. Guess which EU Country has not enacted the Legistlation??  the UK. But as  Truckers organisations both EU and Foreign point out the UK does not have the designated Truck Stops, Toilets and washing facilities are non existant and where they do have limited spaces like Granada Services they are not Free unlike in mainland Europe, and truckers have to use lay bye's where they are continually harrased by the police for a variety of reasons, including the noise from refridge units. There were numerous cases a few years ago of attempted prosecution of non UK truckers for using TV's with their cabs without a UK licence.?????    Report

19/05/2008, 21:19 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 2,747 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry  Ole Git wrote: Without wanting to procrastinate the above,  It actually refers to foreign registered vehicles, A EU plated vehicle is not considered foreign ( Except obviously to Greater Manchester Police).), Russian is foreign where as Latvia and Estonia are not ... I don't understand where you get that idea from.  The DVLA and HMRC class EU plated vehicles as foreign registered vehicles.  Why shouldn't the GMP? Are you an ex-trucker by any chance?     Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

19/05/2008, 22:36 Ole Git Joined on 19/03/2008 Perpignan Posts 13 Re: Please help.......insurance quandry  Sunday Driver wrote: I don't understand where you get that idea from.  The DVLA and HMRC class EU plated vehicles as foreign registered vehicles.  Why shouldn't the GMP? Are you an ex-trucker by any chance? The DVLC differentiate between EU and Foreign. HMRC have had lost virtually every decision of theirs when appealed to the ECJ including personal use imports, over their failure to abide by European regulations. The only Trucks I have been in was in my youth when Hitch Hiking, never driven one, Nowdays you have to be an attractive Blonde Female  to be a trucker, well they are the ones I see driving in France    Report

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