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11/04/2008, 17:32
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Benjamin
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British = britannique
Northern Irish = irlandais du nord
Welsh = gallois(e)
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11/04/2008, 18:40
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5-element
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"Les Britanniques" is what should, but is seldom, used. I have lost count of the number of times I have pointed out to French people that saying about a Scottish or or Welsh person that they are "anglais" would be a bit like confusing the French with the Swiss or the Belgians.
You would have thought that someone like president Sarkozy should know better, but no: I noticed him making the same mistake, referring to "les Anglais" when it should have been "les Britanniques". Which is almost unforgivable, IMHO.
Some things are truly hard to change.
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11/04/2008, 21:31
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sweet 17
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Definitely, Britannique is correct. Our mairie used it first of all to us and about us and I have used it ever since without any French person correcting me. Donc, must be OK, n'est pas?
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12/04/2008, 9:12
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Compo

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And I am very keen to emphasise whenever I can that this is the flag of les anglais...
And not this 
In fact, I have found the flag as a very good way of getting free beer in many UK pubs from people whom I challenge to describe or draw the English flag for me. They almost always come up with the latter above. Americans are particularly gullible.
And perhaps it is also important to educate people that the second flag is called the Union Flag and not the Union Jack (unless, of course, it is on a ship).
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12/04/2008, 12:51
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allanb
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It's our own fault; we haven't got the English language properly organized to describe our own nationality.
The sovereign state of which I am a citizen (and most of you too) is not Britain. It is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (if in doubt, see passport). This name, commonly abbreviated to "the UK", makes it officially clear that Britain does not include Northern Ireland.
Since the adjective "British" is clearly derived from Britain, the obvious conclusion is that "British" doesn't apply to all citizens of the UK. Actually we all know that it does include the Scots and the Welsh; but can you blame the French for being confused? At least if they use the word "English" they are correctly describing most of the British immigrants in France.
Incidentally, the UK name also implies that "Great Britain" is something different from "Britain", but that's another question. Perhaps it has something to do with the Isle of Wight.
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12/04/2008, 12:51
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NormanH
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The nationality of everybody from the UK is "Britannique", and this should be used when filling in an official form. Of course in conversation one is free to say "Anglais" "Ecossais" etc...
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12/04/2008, 13:03
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5-element
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allanb wrote: | "British" doesn't apply to all citizens of the UK????????????????????????????????????????????????
. Actually we all know that it does include the Scots and the Welsh; but can you blame the French for being confused? At least if they use the word "English" they are correctly describing most of the British immigrants in France.
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On the whole, the French are NOT confused. They do know about pays de Galles and Ecosse, and Irlande du Nord.
They do know that not all "Britanniques" are "anglais". It's just that they fail to see that it would matter to the people concerned.
I can't see how "English" describes most British immigrants to France. You are what it says on your passport, which you then have to translate to fill in various French forms, i.e.:
Nationalité = Britannique...... not anglais, gallois, écossais.....
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