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 25/04/2008, 15:45
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Christine Animal
 
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26/04/2008, 18:05
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valB
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26/04/2008, 20:27
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Frenchie
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Christine, you were right posting this, but I am too sensitive, I did not click on the link cos such images haunt me for ever...........
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26/04/2008, 21:32
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Christine Animal
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27/04/2008, 5:37
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Limousin Lass
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Oh, Christine I thought they were going to be some nice videos to show the opposite way of keeping animals. Why is it the people working in these places have to be so insensitive to animals feelings. I could, just about, understand the need for factory farming of some animals BUT I cannot and will never understand the need for such cruelty.
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27/04/2008, 9:38
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tegwini
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Re: I am not vegan, but...
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Christine
awful, awful -
I stopped eating all meat/flesh in about 1988, initially it was a gradual change, but even the thought of the pigl forced onto vehicles with electirc prodders at my school (Burford School in Oxfordshire, which had its own farm at the time) was enough for me.
But, I am with 2 carnivores, but can't convince them to change, but they get vegetarian food as often as I can. In France it's difficult to find much when eating out even though I am not a vegan - sometimes think I should be though.
I think cruelty has increased in Europe - Halal/Kosher slaughter for example, and sadly the kind of people who do this kind of work do seem to become immume to the cruelty all around them & some even start with a nasty attitude to animals. Animal cruelty us even worse outside of Europe.
Upsetting to see these videos Christine, but I do believe you are right in showing what is happening. The world seemed not to know what was happening in *** Germany, some denied it, many did not believe it, and some claimed it could never have happened.
We need to make people more aware of what is happening now & here in 'civilised' Europe.
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27/04/2008, 9:39
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cassis
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They don't "have to be so insensitive" there is no "need for such cruelty". There are examples of good and bad husbandry and slaughterhouses everywhere. Let's get some sense of balance, please - Christine is not claiming that this is typical of how the entire farming industry is run and so we should boycott meat products. No-one would turn vegan on the evidence of a few videos on YouTube, unless they were truly feeble minded, though they should rightly be disgusted at the videos that Christine has selected and it's natural to protest about it when such practices are exposed.
I wouldn't stop listening to all music just because someone posted a few videos of James Blunt (cue James Blunt fans to howl in protest).
Here, try this one. Nice, happy cows in France:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=CDp2IVQPZEI&NR=1
and here
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=bjy65Vl4gbs&NR=1
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=hhfSnq4xzqQ&NR=1
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