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29/02/2008, 16:57 rachelle Joined on 29/02/2008 Posts 2 discipline in french schools Does anyone know anything about discipline in french schools particularly for serious acts of violence, for example i heard they don't have true exclusions in france so how does it work? Im doing an essay on violence in french schools so any releveant information on school discipline would be very helpful.    Report

29/02/2008, 17:20 raindog Joined on 26/09/2007 HERAULT Posts 777 Re: discipline in french schools Switch your tv on to ARTE immediately! 'C'est Dans L'Air' is on right now and it's about violence in French schools! sociability is just a big smile and a big smile is nothing but teeth    Report

29/02/2008, 17:22 Cat Joined on 21/01/2005 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot Posts 2,963 Re: discipline in french schools Well done that man I think it's actually France 5 (I know that for a lot of people it's the same channel, switching over at 6pm).  There's a discussion afterwards, or you can ask a question right now if your French is up to it. http://www.france5.fr/c-dans-l-air/index-fr.php?page=accueil Cathy Sun, sun, sun, here it comes...    Report

29/02/2008, 17:45 raindog Joined on 26/09/2007 HERAULT Posts 777 Re: discipline in french schools oops sorry - same button for me..... sociability is just a big smile and a big smile is nothing but teeth    Report

29/02/2008, 18:21 Tourangelle Joined on 31/08/2004 37 Posts 934 Re: discipline in french schools It depends what you mean by serious act of violence.  Obviously some just go directly to the police. But some don't especially if it is between two pupils and the parents do not wish to make a complaint. To expell a pupil there is a procedure called a conseil de discipline.  The  pupil  can be  excluded for  the time  until the conseil de discipline and only return for this. The conseil is made up of some parents, some teachers, some other staff members, some pupils and always the head who is the chair.  These are elected at the beginning of the year from among their peers.  The child can be accompanied by their parents or somebody else of their choice.  Other teachers or adults or even children can be asked to attend in order to give evidence.  The head will explain the situation, go through the child's record, but just a little, in class so and so etc, then talk about the incident.  Then, others will be asked to contribute, the members of the conseil can ask questions.  The child will have an opportunity to say what they have to say, as will their representative.  When this is all over, those who are not members of the conseil go out and there is a discussion and a vote.  After, the result is handed down, it can be a permanent exclusion or a temporary one, or a suspended exclusion meaning that if anything happens in the future the child will be expelled.  There you go, hope it helps.    Report

29/02/2008, 20:37 Val_2 Joined on 23/08/2004 Posts 3,117 Re: discipline in french schools Oh yes they do have permanent exclusions and not for just acts of really serious violence either but lesser acts as our neighbour's son found out when he was caught bullying and punching another pupil at the local collège. He now attends the local Maison Familiale Rurale for all it's worth as he is worse than ever by doing vandalism in the village,smoking and drinking etc just to look big in front of the other kids.I have even had the gendarmes at my door looking for him yet he is and has always been polite and friendly to us and we have know since he was a bump in his mum's tummy.    Report

01/03/2008, 20:47 Jura Joined on 28/11/2005 Posts 761 Re: discipline in french schools Well, I just asked my 14 year old son what happens in his school when his schoolmates do not adhere to the rules...he said 'they get sent to the red haired lady in the office'. He said going to her is 'like going to hell'. He says she is always 'cranky and has a vendetta'.   Apparently she makes them quake in their shoes at this school. All power to her!      Report

01/03/2008, 21:19 Cathy Joined on 07/03/2006 Mostly near Bordeaux; Sometimes near Bristol Posts 1,703 Re: discipline in french schools  Val_2 wrote: Oh yes they do have permanent exclusions and not for just acts of really serious violence either but lesser acts as our neighbour's son found out when he was caught bullying and punching another pupil at the local collège. He now attends the local Maison Familiale Rurale for all it's worth as he is worse than ever by doing vandalism in the village,smoking and drinking etc just to look big in front of the other kids.I have even had the gendarmes at my door looking for him yet he is and has always been polite and friendly to us and we have know since he was a bump in his mum's tummy. Val (or anyone else) - Are Maison Familiale Rurale for such children?  My 15 year old daughter is thinking of going to one because of the amount of work experience they offer.  There's a porte ouverte this month. Cathy ----- Your children won't remember you ironing their pyjamas but they will remember you reading them a bedside story.    Report

04/03/2008, 16:40 rachelle Joined on 29/02/2008 Posts 2 Re: discipline in french schools Are citizenship lessons compulsory in France?    Report

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