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13/03/2008, 9:33 Pierre ZFP Joined on 12/11/2004 PdC(62)/Luxembourg Posts 1,649 French housing 'crisis' on the BBC I see there is a radio program on the BBC today   (13/03/2008) at 11:00 GMT highlighting 'France's sordid housing crisis' http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/7290139.stm I had never heard of such a thing.  I think I will listen in, or at rather download the podcast for later. Fool me once, shame on you Fool me twice, shame on me Fool me 3 times and you can see a statistical tendency    Report

13/03/2008, 14:10 SaligoBay Joined on 23/08/2004 uncharted outer reaches of Montpellier Agglo Posts 2,951 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC You must move in very rich circles, Pierre!   One may tolerate a world of demons for the sake of an angel.    Report

13/03/2008, 14:59 SaligoBay Joined on 23/08/2004 uncharted outer reaches of Montpellier Agglo Posts 2,951 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC The Spiegel did this story a couple of weeks ago about almost the same thing, entitled "Voulez-vous coucher avec mes parents?" http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,537588,00.html   One may tolerate a world of demons for the sake of an angel.    Report

13/03/2008, 15:18 Cat Joined on 21/01/2005 ------- Forum Moderator ------- Lot Posts 2,787 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC I suppose people living in university cities might get more local broadcasting on this kind of thing than us country mice, but this is news to me.  I knew about squalid housing conditions, and the difficulty students face in finding accommodation, and squats being unofficially rented out, but I had no idea about "contre services" letting agreements.  Students having to stay at home with their parents is not the end of the world, especially if the alternative is having to pay for their lodgings with sexual favours Cathy Sun, sun, sun, here it comes...    Report

13/03/2008, 16:28 Will Joined on 22/09/2004 Sussex & 50 (Mortainais) Posts 4,727 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC With everything weighted against the landlords, it is not surprising that a lot of houses remain empty rather than being rented out to those who need them. I suppose the unofficial 'payment in kind' is one way round the problem   Will intentionally blank signature http://www.vienormande.com    Report

13/03/2008, 17:32 SaligoBay Joined on 23/08/2004 uncharted outer reaches of Montpellier Agglo Posts 2,951 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC  Cat wrote: Students having to stay at home with their parents is not the end of the world, In a system like the UK no, where they can finish a degree by 21, but a lot of students in France are still mooning around finishing off degrees at 26 and 27.   One may tolerate a world of demons for the sake of an angel.    Report

13/03/2008, 18:06 Pads Joined on 24/05/2006 Cornwall/ Montage Noir Posts 3,120 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC I think if it is by mutal agreement and both sides know what they are doing I see no harm in , how many students are giving it away every night for free? whats the difference, you dont enter ito some thing like that and then moan later , that I have been abused !! If the students didnt want to do then they wouldnt   Dirty Tom =^..^= Where ever I lay my paw thats my home    Report

13/03/2008, 21:23 KathyF Joined on 17/02/2007 Mid-Wales & Southern Manche (50) Posts 119 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC I actually caught this programme while driving and it made sobering listening.  Joking apart, it sounded like a few landlords at least are vitually demanding sex, not in lieu of rent, but as a condition of being allowed to rent. Part of the programme was about Saint Denis on the outskirts of Paris and the dreadful physical condition of some of the rented accommodation there - real slums in 21st century Paris. According to the authorities questioned there has been a shortfall in housing provision in France's major cities for the last 15 or 20 years at least, and just as in Britain the rising divorce rate is contributing to a greatly increased demand for affordable housing. The figure of at least a million people homeless or in very substandard housing was mentioned - hardly the French idyll some British expats go on about....    Report

13/03/2008, 21:37 Russethouse Joined on 23/08/2004 Forum Moderator Posts 9,488 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC  Pads wrote: I think if it is by mutal agreement and both sides know what they are doing I see no harm in , how many students are giving it away every night for free? whats the difference, you dont enter ito some thing like that and then moan later , that I have been abused !! If the students didnt want to do then they wouldnt   Are you sure you mean that ?   www.quimperclub.org 99    Report

13/03/2008, 21:50 Pads Joined on 24/05/2006 Cornwall/ Montage Noir Posts 3,120 Re: French housing 'crisis' on the BBC Mmmmm 50/50 , Its called prostitution goes on over here too. not all of them are victims , Many of them choose it as a life style, unless made to do it by force which is wrong . people who make the choice to do , do so because they want to. there are many hard people out there who can do  any thing for money . I have first hand experiance as a very good friend of mine choose this as a living, she came from a good family who owned a well know public company. She was brought up by parents who were swingers so grew up to believe sex was just that , nothing to get emotional about , no job would give her the life style she grew up with , so this to her was easy money, her mother knew about it and was cool with it. She never knew it was wrong or felt abused. she has made a good living has homes in England spain and greece and no longer needs to work at 47.(edit : this was done with her own money nothing from her parents )  If these students choose to do this , its work or sex , which is the easieist ?? You and I know its wrong . but lots of people just dont care and take the easy option. There are plenty of people who are poor in france who dont do this so why do some ?    Dirty Tom =^..^= Where ever I lay my paw thats my home    Report

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