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13/02/2008, 16:53 Ninthace Joined on 23/08/2004 Haute Garonne Posts 48 A Glimmer of Hope? We went into our local CPAM at St Gaudens (dept 31) today armed with a copy of the latest changes printed off from the social security website.  We explained that we had applied previously on 12 Dec 07 when our E106s were about to run out but had been refused under the rules at the time.  She read the printout and asked for a copy of the refusal letter which we did not have.  She said that our dossier would have been archived and that we would have to complete a new application supported by a letter asking that our dossier be reconsidered.  We asked why the old dossier could not just be resurrected but she said she could not get the file out of the archive (presumably they use old dossiers to heat the building). I went back this pm armed with all the paperwork and a newly completed CMU application form.  She took copies of everything and accepted the dossier.  There was no hint of a refusal this time  - so fingers crossed. For info the documents we supplied were:   a CMU application form and questionnaire on sources of income, are you working etc; letter asking to be reconsiderd under the new rules; copy of new rules from the website; 2005 tax declaration form where we stated the date we arrived in France; Avis d'Impots for 2005 and 2006; EDF bill from just after our arival in France; birth certificates; marriage certificate; passports; proof of pension income; E106s and letters from DWP confirming that they could not be extended; and finally a RIB.    Report

13/02/2008, 17:04 Helen Joined on 23/08/2004 12 Posts 138 Re: A Glimmer of Hope? It seems perhaps  that the CPAMs are beginning to act on the circulaire now. On anglo-info Brittanny two posters have said that they have received letters from the CPAM  today saying that they will continue to be affiliated to the CMU.    Report

13/02/2008, 19:12 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 2,752 Re: A Glimmer of Hope? All credit to those CPAMs for their prompt action - their authority to proceed was only issued on Friday. The French don't hang about when something needs sorting......   Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

14/02/2008, 10:08 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 6,315 Re: A Glimmer of Hope? That is good news; that makes four that we know of who are co-operating.  Helen, do you know which two CPAMs were mentioned on Anglo-Info? Healthcare Issues Site    Report

14/02/2008, 10:15 Helen Joined on 23/08/2004 12 Posts 138 Re: A Glimmer of Hope? Coops,  Three now : St Brieuc, Vannes and Loudeac      Report

14/02/2008, 10:19 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 6,315 Re: A Glimmer of Hope? Thanks. Slowly, slowly, catchee monkey... Healthcare Issues Site    Report

16/02/2008, 9:39 minnie Joined on 04/01/2008 Posts 19 Re: A Glimmer of Hope? This is not my message.  I have just pasted this from the latest message in Jim Murphy's blog.  Hopefully things will now start happening! re: French Health Care PRIORITY !!! TO ALL YOU WORRIED EX-PATS. I HAVE BEEN TO MY CPAM OFFICE TODAY 15TH AND BEEN TOLD I WILL REMAIN IN CMU AFTER MARCH. THEY RECEIVED THE INSTRUCTIONS TODAY. I WILL RECEIVE WRITTEN NOTIFICATION SOO, AND WILL JUST NEED TO GO TO A PHARMACIE TO TOP UP MY CARTE VITALE. I AM IN DEPT.36 (INDRE) CHATEAUROUX CPAM. We, as E106 expirees, sent in a request, which should arrive on Monday 18th Feb,  for a review of Agen (47) CPAMs  refusal last week to let us join CMU.  We live in hopes!    Report

16/02/2008, 10:00 cooperlola Joined on 05/05/2006 72 - Sarthe - home of les 24 heures du Mans Posts 6,315 Re: A Glimmer of Hope? THESE are the accepting CPAMs so far, that we know of.  Even Perigueux, which was very recalcitrant up until now, has fallen into line - as one of our founders discovered yesterday to her great relief. Please keep informing us of your own experiences, both positive and negative. Healthcare Issues Site    Report

16/02/2008, 14:12 Sunday Driver Joined on 07/10/2005 Deux Sevres (79) Posts 2,752 Re: A Glimmer of Hope? Referring to 'the accepting CPAMs' and those who are 'co-operating' might give the misleading impression that some CPAMs may be considering acting outside their official remit and refusing re-entry to the CMU.  A more positive message to those still awaiting their 'letter' would be that all CPAMs will now be actioning the new instructions, and any current delay is purely down to the efficiency of an individual caisse's postal administration. If you want to continue monitoring the situation, then perhaps it would be better to describe them as 'those CPAMs who appear to be quicker off the mark than others'.....     Waddya mean it's only Saturday......    Report

21/02/2008, 11:29 Ninthace Joined on 23/08/2004 Haute Garonne Posts 48 Take St Gaudens off the list! I started this thread because the St Gaudens CPAM had accepted our paperwork to apply for CMU-B after the expiry of our E 106.  Our new application quoted their initial refusal to let us join, gave dossier numbers and included a copy of the latest rules for E106 holders issued by the Securite Sociale.  Today we have received a letter dated 15 Feb  which adds insult to injury. They say thank you for our application to renew our membership of the CMU but we have been refused because of the change in EU law in 2004 and decree 2007-371 of 21 March 2007.  We must have sufficient resources and have private heatlth insurance etc.  However, as a goodwill gesture, our membership of the CMU has been extended to 31 Mar 08 and we should present our Carte Vitales for update as soon as possible.  Moreover, they say we owe them €478 for the quarter Jan to March 2008! 1.    We did not ask to renew - we asked to join following E106 expiry on 5 Jan 08.  We have never been members of the CMU-B. 2.   We do not have a Carte Vitale to update - when we asked for one in July 2005 we were told we could only have one when after E106 expired. 3.   Since we were not covered  by the CMU after our E106 expired - why on earth should we pay €478 for this privilege? Suggestions please?    Report

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